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The last time my family was replaced by technology

339 points · 641 comments · megalomanu

  1. Havoc · · focus · HN ↗
    I don’t particularly like the horse to engine angle because it doesn’t capture the issue well.

    When we automated physical activity people that were crowded out moved into knowledge work. Now we’re automating knowledge work so people move into ???

    Leisure? Become a useless class? UBI? Something else entirely?

    1. AndrewDucker · · focus · HN ↗
      How are your plumbing skills?
      1. rootusrootus · · focus · HN ↗
        Plumbing is kind of a hard job, definitely not fun for anyone above middle age. And given it will pay minimum wage, I think I'd just take a life of leisure instead.
        1. gspr · · focus · HN ↗
          Minimum wage? Where I live, the plumber median wage is pretty much exactly the national median.
          1. rootusrootus · · focus · HN ↗
            Sure, but that is today. When AI decimates the knowledge fields, a whole lot of people are going to be looking at different career options. There will not be any shortage of people hoping to make money in the trades, and with that surge in supply will come a collapse in prices.
            1. gspr · · focus · HN ↗
              Ah, then I understand you. But please, let's stop with this inevitability. If AI decimates, not when.
              1. asdff · · focus · HN ↗
                Why would it not? The economic incentives make it inevitable. Might as well expect water to not flow downhill.
                1. gspr · · focus · HN ↗
                  > Why would it not? The economic incentives make it inevitable.

                  Citation needed. Again, I wanna emphasize that I'm not saying it won't happen. I'm just saying that it's not a given that it will.

                  There is very little sign that current models can do anything but (at best!) augment most knowledge workers (with some exceptions). And there are very reasonable open questions about whether it's economically, and ecologically, sustainable to continue development at anything near the current pace. There is, in fact, plenty of indicators that even the current SoTA is the result of a financial overexertion.

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