We got asked this question two weeks ago when we conducted a workshop on effective and responsible use of AI tools at a local conference. But how can you argue about about IP and copyright if the breakthrough of LLMs is potentially based on circumventing or breaking IP and copyright in the first place?
> how can you argue about about IP and copyright if the breakthrough of LLMs is potentially based on circumventing or breaking IP and copyright in the first place?
Easy answer: it’s not. Learning isn’t copyright infringement. Never has been and hopefully never will be.
Well, of course learning isn't the problem and shouldn't be. But what about reselling/commercialising that knowledge? That is the big (commercial) opportunity. But if AI models learn by fitting their parameters to the given data, then overfitting on said data could result in the IP or copyrighted being "slopped" out verbatim?
The knowledge isn’t copyrighted and, thank god, cannot be.
I thought we were supposed to be hackers. Information wants to be free and all that. What a bunch of hypocrites, willing to betray their ideals as soon as it’s convenient.
>The knowledge isn’t copyrighted and, thank god, cannot be.
We copyright knowledge all the time, what do you mean? Those are called patents.
>I thought we were supposed to be hackers. Information wants to be free and all that.
Yes, hence why I'm baffled people are fine with billion dollar companies DDOSing the internet so they can contain knowledge in a black box. And literally destroying some knowledge in the process.
I guess "hackers" also gladly give up freedom for a bit of convenience when it suits them.
prathje · · focus · HN ↗
We got asked this question two weeks ago when we conducted a workshop on effective and responsible use of AI tools at a local conference. But how can you argue about about IP and copyright if the breakthrough of LLMs is potentially based on circumventing or breaking IP and copyright in the first place?
How do you feel about all of this?
JimDabell · · focus · HN ↗
Easy answer: it’s not. Learning isn’t copyright infringement. Never has been and hopefully never will be.
prathje · · focus · HN ↗
semiquaver · · focus · HN ↗
I thought we were supposed to be hackers. Information wants to be free and all that. What a bunch of hypocrites, willing to betray their ideals as soon as it’s convenient.
johnnyanmac · · focus · HN ↗
We copyright knowledge all the time, what do you mean? Those are called patents.
>I thought we were supposed to be hackers. Information wants to be free and all that.
Yes, hence why I'm baffled people are fine with billion dollar companies DDOSing the internet so they can contain knowledge in a black box. And literally destroying some knowledge in the process.
I guess "hackers" also gladly give up freedom for a bit of convenience when it suits them.