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Why Is Sam Altman a Free Man?

265 points · 240 comments · ragall

  1. bluegatty · · focus · HN ↗
    "OpenAI models attack websites and take anything they can out of them because that is the business model of the company."

    No, good gosh let's stop with the hyperbole.

    The models were given instructions to get answers by any means in a loose test harness, not to steal stuff, moreover, they're not 'learning from OAI staff'.

    If we are cynical, we could say the 'lax security was on purposes - hoping for a big media event'.

    And OpenAI is 100% responsible for the actions of their Agents - but lets' not overstate or conflate what is gong on.

    1. christkv · · focus · HN ↗
      So why is OpenAI not charged with Cybercrimes. You would be if you did the same.
      1. exitb · · focus · HN ↗
        It's not unusual for intent to play part in legal framing of an issue. I'm not very fond of the "cybercrime" angle, as it kind of lets them off the hook if they're able to prove a lack of intent. Meanwhile what we actually see is negligence.
        1. Applejinx · · focus · HN ↗
          I've never seen anybody or anything go out, suck up everything in the world and distill it into a different thing containing elements of all the things they took for no particular reason with no expectation or intent.

          That's a WILD angle for them to argue. Lotta energy being expended for a lack of intent. Lotta money spent…

          1. exitb · · focus · HN ↗
            These are two different issues. Do they intend to create models that basically encapsulate entire human intellectual value? Yes, but that's apparently not illegal. Did the intend to hack Hugging Face? Probably not.
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