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Why Is Sam Altman a Free Man?

265 points · 240 comments · ragall

  1. bluegatty · · focus · HN ↗
    "OpenAI models attack websites and take anything they can out of them because that is the business model of the company."

    No, good gosh let's stop with the hyperbole.

    The models were given instructions to get answers by any means in a loose test harness, not to steal stuff, moreover, they're not 'learning from OAI staff'.

    If we are cynical, we could say the 'lax security was on purposes - hoping for a big media event'.

    And OpenAI is 100% responsible for the actions of their Agents - but lets' not overstate or conflate what is gong on.

    1. RHSeeger · · focus · HN ↗
      > The models were given instructions to get answers by any means in a loose test harness, not to steal stuff, moreover, they're not 'learning from OAI staff'.

      If you equip someone with the tools to do harm and then tell it to accomplish a goal "by any means necessary", especially someone you KNOW has no real concept of ethical behavior... then you are telling it that it is acceptable to steal, kill, or whatever else. I honestly cannot how it can be seen any other way.

      If it was a crime boss telling their enforcer "by any means necessary", we would all know exactly what that means. And we should all know what it means here, too.

      1. orf · · focus · HN ↗
        > And we should all know what it means here, too.

        It very clearly did not mean “go and hack third parties” though

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