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Tesla takes on $30B in credit as it approaches unprofitability

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  1. rgmerk · · focus · HN ↗
    Look, I get that Elon wants to chase AI, but why not do relatively simple, low-cost things like build a proper 7-seat SUV that uses the Cybertruck platform - or even a properly stretched Model Y platform (rather than the six-seater L)? Or how about a delivery van on a stretched Y platform?

    Tesla's product line is narrow and aging rapidly.

    1. fooker · · focus · HN ↗
      This will get TSLA valued as a car company.

      They want to be valued as a ~~scifi~~ tech company.

      Which is fair, given that the market (and by extension we) chose to brutally punish boring car companies that make reliable high volume cars.

      1. Gud · · focus · HN ↗
        And by punish you mean fairly value?
        1. Zigurd · · focus · HN ↗
          Yes, that would be the punishment. It's also why Elon is irreplaceable. You might think the long-term health of Tesla would be well served by leadership that would build on the remarkable initial success of creating a viable mass market electric car company. As many on the thread pointed out, there are many plausible ways to formulate a product that would do exactly that.

          But that would be a massacre of shareholder value. One more quarter of a ridonculous valuation is worth more than having a product that will keep Tesla viable as a car company. The idea that Grok could become a first tier AI product is more valuable than a mass market SUV, because that untested idea keeps the share price up.

          Until it doesn't. If you can predict the day that happens, I want to subscribe to your newsletter.

          1. danny_codes · · focus · HN ↗
            Grok isn’t part of Tesla.
            1. sshine · · focus · HN ↗
              Right, it's part of SpaceX.
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