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Tesla takes on $30B in credit as it approaches unprofitability

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  1. rgmerk · · focus · HN ↗
    Look, I get that Elon wants to chase AI, but why not do relatively simple, low-cost things like build a proper 7-seat SUV that uses the Cybertruck platform - or even a properly stretched Model Y platform (rather than the six-seater L)? Or how about a delivery van on a stretched Y platform?

    Tesla's product line is narrow and aging rapidly.

    1. fooker · · focus · HN ↗
      This will get TSLA valued as a car company.

      They want to be valued as a ~~scifi~~ tech company.

      Which is fair, given that the market (and by extension we) chose to brutally punish boring car companies that make reliable high volume cars.

      1. Gud · · focus · HN ↗
        And by punish you mean fairly value?
        1. cyanydeez · · focus · HN ↗
          yes, you've discovered the plight of the bigot: equality feels like punishment.
          1. fooker · · focus · HN ↗
            Of course equality is a punishment when you have more to lose than others.

            If the world's wealth was equally distributed, it would be pretty punishing for everyone who is commenting on this platform.

            1. cyanydeez · · focus · HN ↗
              which is the philsophical/moral point of view which asks: If you had to randomly be born in anywhere in the world, how would you prefer the world work?

              Very few people would choose the one where there's a slight chance they're in the wealth classes currently.

              Not moving towards equality is just a selfish choicel.

              1. fooker · · focus · HN ↗
                > Not moving towards equality is just a selfish choicel.

                It is. People are selfish.

                Companies even more so.

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