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Tesla takes on $30B in credit as it approaches unprofitability

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  1. speedgoose · · focus · HN ↗
    Sorry TSLA holders, it's partly my fault as I got my 5 years old Model Y checked by a third party garage for everything that should be fixed by Tesla before the end of the main warranty period.
    1. sippingabonedry · · focus · HN ↗
      I'm reminded nearly every other day that EVs need no maintenance and should never see the inside of a mechanic's garage.
      1. collabs · · focus · HN ↗
        You still need things like brakes though, right?
        1. sippingabonedry · · focus · HN ↗
          Of course. It's a ridiculous notion yet that hasn't stopped anyone from repeating it constantly.

          More than a few times my mechanic has found something pending failure (like a leak) during regularly scheduled ICE maintenance and alerted me to keep an eye on it.

          1. jackdoe · · focus · HN ↗
            when I say EVs need less maintenance I mean things like cylinder honing or clutch slipping.

            do people actually think you buy a tesla and just drive?

            1. andwur · · focus · HN ↗
              Their marketing worked well here, most Tesla drivers I know have commented that they will never need to service their car. At least, they do until they wear their tyres to the point they disintegrate while driving. A mechanically illiterate public coupled with effective marketing is a dangerous combo when they're flying around in 2 tonne boxes still filled with wear parts.
              1. dd8601fn · · focus · HN ↗
                They do that with ice vehicles anyway. They’re just not ignoring oil changes, fuel and oil filters, transmission, belts, etc. with an ev.
              2. rlt · · focus · HN ↗
                > At least, they do until they wear their tyres to the point they disintegrate while driving

                I don't think anyone who knows tires wear out thinks Teslas have special tires that don't wear.

                > A mechanically illiterate public coupled with effective marketing is a dangerous combo when they're flying around in 2 tonne boxes still filled with wear parts.

                Good news: Teslas will tell you when you do need to do the little maintenance that is required, including worn tires.

                I believe it's the only, or at least first, car that measures tire wear by comparing GPS distance traveled to wheel rotations, accounting for tire pressure.

                1. JumpCrisscross · · focus · HN ↗
                  > I don't think anyone who knows tires wear out thinks Teslas have special tires that don't wear

                  I've started taking my Dad's Tesla in to get tires rotated when I'm in town because he flat refuses to do it because of this nonsense.

                  1. NetMageSCW · · focus · HN ↗
                    Perhaps you should be taking his keys instead. Though tire rotation is just an economic decision (I haven’t had a car that could have its tires rotated in decades) not a safety decision. Just means tire will need replacing sooner.
                    1. JumpCrisscross · · focus · HN ↗
                      No, this is a long-term thing. In high school the minivan I drove to violin practice crapped its engine onto the freeway because it apparently hadn’t had an oil change in years.
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