> we ask them to stop testing advanced mathematical problems on proprietary models.
Maybe I'm alone on this, but for some reason these sorts of requests strike me as akin to gatekeeping how someone should breathe air. It's math... the numbers and symbols are just out there in the platonic realm available for anyone to do as they like with them. It's patently absurd to request other people to stop.
Ensuring credit where credit is due? That's fine. If your model incorporates the efforts of many others, then it's reasonable to request acknowledgement of everyone who contributed (even indirectly). But that's not what the request states — presumably their ask subsumes any advanced ML model, including those that weren't trained on a giant corpus of text.
But on one hand there are labs that pushes tens of millions $ to mine for publicity, and on one hand mostly underfunded researchers trying to improve general understanding. Big ai may seriously harm math and when Pr value diminishes down nobody is there to keep pushing.
“researchers trying to improve general understanding”
Pretty sure AI will do better for that.. mathematicians need to be centaurs like the rest of us and stop rhetoric that is going to make existing math centaurs feel like they might get math-cancelled
My point is that there is a real difference between massive ai company budgets and research mathematicians driven it, it is not an argument against use of ai which seems inevitable.
>mathematicians need to be centaurs like the rest of us and stop rhetoric that is going to make existing math centaurs feel like they might get math-cancelled
(An inseparable fusion of two distinct animals, in this case human/AI. HN uses the word often where "cyborg" would fit. Also: "reverse centaur", where the human part is lacking a head).
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Maybe I'm alone on this, but for some reason these sorts of requests strike me as akin to gatekeeping how someone should breathe air. It's math... the numbers and symbols are just out there in the platonic realm available for anyone to do as they like with them. It's patently absurd to request other people to stop.
Ensuring credit where credit is due? That's fine. If your model incorporates the efforts of many others, then it's reasonable to request acknowledgement of everyone who contributed (even indirectly). But that's not what the request states — presumably their ask subsumes any advanced ML model, including those that weren't trained on a giant corpus of text.
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Pretty sure AI will do better for that.. mathematicians need to be centaurs like the rest of us and stop rhetoric that is going to make existing math centaurs feel like they might get math-cancelled
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Centaurs?
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<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_chess" rel="nofollow">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_chess
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