I feel like there has been a few takes on this (atuin desktop comes to mind[0] but apparently it's not a going concern anymore?) why hasn't it caught on?
I'm curious about this too. Org-babel, Jupyter, Atuin Desktop, etc. have explored similar ideas, but none became a mainstream way of working.
For people who used these tools long-term: what held them back? UX/accessibility, or do people simply prefer keeping documents separate from the actual work?
we saw a bunch of issues with desktop, in no particular order
1. authoring runbooks is difficult, most people barely document their work let alone make it executable
2. keeping runbooks up to date is difficult, they are error-prone across systems
3. agents are now pretty good at a number of the tasks these ideas solve for, and are good at working around issues caused by docs becoming out of date/etc
all these tools are great for your own notes, but are very difficult to scale
Thanks for answering. That's really interesting.
Maybe agents flip this around. Instead of humans maintaining executable docs, the actual work generates the document.
It could become something like a PR-style review layer for agent work. You don't necessarily need to understand the underlying code or tooling, but you can inspect what changed, why it changed, and approve or reject it.
Do you think that would address any of the scaling problems you saw?
Hey in this case, you might find <a href="https://higherlevel.to/" rel="nofollow">https://higherlevel.to/ relevant to you!
Very happy to hear what you think of it. I've built it specifically for reviewing outcomes instead of impementations.
Humans define what correct looks like, agents implement and attach evidence (image, videos, etc.) that humans can review.
Hey sorry for that I should have mentioned that it's in beta!
I've updated the landing page so it's clear that it's in beta and added a small "your data" page for now <a href="https://higherlevel.to/your-data" rel="nofollow">https://higherlevel.to/your-data
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0: <a href="https://github.com/atuinsh/desktop" rel="nofollow">https://github.com/atuinsh/desktop
junehwi · · focus · HN ↗
For people who used these tools long-term: what held them back? UX/accessibility, or do people simply prefer keeping documents separate from the actual work?
ellieh · · focus · HN ↗
we saw a bunch of issues with desktop, in no particular order
1. authoring runbooks is difficult, most people barely document their work let alone make it executable
2. keeping runbooks up to date is difficult, they are error-prone across systems
3. agents are now pretty good at a number of the tasks these ideas solve for, and are good at working around issues caused by docs becoming out of date/etc
all these tools are great for your own notes, but are very difficult to scale
junehwi · · focus · HN ↗
cyan_indigo · · focus · HN ↗
Very happy to hear what you think of it. I've built it specifically for reviewing outcomes instead of impementations.
Humans define what correct looks like, agents implement and attach evidence (image, videos, etc.) that humans can review.
skinfaxi · · focus · HN ↗
cyan_indigo · · focus · HN ↗
I've updated the landing page so it's clear that it's in beta and added a small "your data" page for now <a href="https://higherlevel.to/your-data" rel="nofollow">https://higherlevel.to/your-data