"Nerf"ing models isn't real in the vast majority of reported cases. Benchmarks like this or the 100 other "let's see if nerfing is real" copies would have shown it by now if it was.
I made a graphic to explain why people feel like the models get nerfed:
The idea is that new models can handle up to a certain level of complexity, at which point they fall apart. Every new model can handle more complexity, so there's a wonderful time upon release when you feel like you can do anything, only for you to hit the complexity ceiling a few days later when you saturate it. Rinse and repeat for the next model.
That's a good observation, though I'd say here that two things could be true at the same time. But, I do personally believe that most of the reported nerfing is the case of your chart + latent evidence-less complaining. Honeymoon phases are real.
You can't just dismiss something backed by careful measurements by throwing a truism at it. What is this honeymoon phase? Can you quantify it? If not, how are you sure it's real?
I'm not sure I'm arguing what you think I'm arguing. I'm not arguing against measurements. I'm saying that it's relevant to recall that honeymoon phases exist in the general human behavior, whether it applies here or not.
johnfn · · focus · HN ↗
I made a graphic to explain why people feel like the models get nerfed:
<a href="https://x.com/thesilenceturns/status/2103551351825543610" rel="nofollow">https://x.com/thesilenceturns/status/2103551351825543610
The idea is that new models can handle up to a certain level of complexity, at which point they fall apart. Every new model can handle more complexity, so there's a wonderful time upon release when you feel like you can do anything, only for you to hit the complexity ceiling a few days later when you saturate it. Rinse and repeat for the next model.
winwang · · focus · HN ↗
khalic · · focus · HN ↗
You can't just dismiss something backed by careful measurements by throwing a truism at it. What is this honeymoon phase? Can you quantify it? If not, how are you sure it's real?
winwang · · focus · HN ↗