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Livenerf: Has Opus 5.5 been nerfed yet?

922 points · 392 comments · bryan0

  1. jug · · focus · HN ↗
    We also have Nerf Bench:

    <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.bridgebench.ai&#x2F;nerf-bench" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.bridgebench.ai&#x2F;nerf-bench

    They test it on launch day, then benchmark it against that. A deviation of above 10% is considered a change. They&#x27;re currently tracking Opus 5.5 and GPT-6 Astra.

    This bench famously detected a degradation of Opus 4.6 which Anthropic later blogged about. I personally think people sense nerfs more often than they happen and that it&#x27;s often about honeymoon effects.

    1. Rapzid · · focus · HN ↗
      The vibe bro science is this always happens on every release, every Tuesday, and twice on Sunday.

      Of course it&#x27;s almost entirely unsubstantiated BS.

      1. fbrncci · · focus · HN ↗
        Well now it’s being substantiated!
        1. Rapzid · · focus · HN ↗
          Or rather it&#x27;s being.. Unsubstantiated. The Nerf conspiracy isn&#x27;t that there have been a few harness and platform bugs leading to performance regressions, but that OpenAI&#x2F;Anthropic have maliciously and unethically degraded their model performance post release to shed load and save money.
          1. somenameforme · · focus · HN ↗
            Yeah it&#x27;s just inconceivable that companies whose entire business model started by engaging in wholesale for-profit theft and abuse of intellectual property would ever be so unethical as to try to lower their costs, especially just prior to an IPO.
            1. lxgr · · focus · HN ↗
              It&#x27;s at least highly implausible. Why would they engage in pretty uncontroversially illegal deception&#x2F;fraud if they have so many other legal ways of gaming benchmarks, selling more tokens etc. available to them?

              It&#x27;s like arguing that your bank is scalping you by rounding down interest math on odd days of the month when they can just introduce a perfectly legal bullshit fee or otherwise change their terms to your disadvantage instead.

              1. somenameforme · · focus · HN ↗
                They wouldn&#x27;t be breaking any laws at all. It&#x27;d be simply tuning their output as they see fit. And that&#x27;s if you could actually prove it was even intentional, when in reality they have endless plausible deniability of &#x27;oh it was just a technical glitch we&#x27;ve since corrected.&#x27;

                Banks have far greater transparency and legal requirements. LLM companies are just delivering a black box that they have complete control over. And given the regular &#x27;How&#x27;s Claude doing this session?&#x27; stuff, it&#x27;s almost certain that they&#x27;re A-B testing various tweaks on a per session basis.

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