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Livenerf: Has Opus 5.5 been nerfed yet?

922 points · 392 comments · bryan0

  1. jug · · focus · HN ↗
    We also have Nerf Bench:

    <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.bridgebench.ai&#x2F;nerf-bench" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.bridgebench.ai&#x2F;nerf-bench

    They test it on launch day, then benchmark it against that. A deviation of above 10% is considered a change. They&#x27;re currently tracking Opus 5.5 and GPT-6 Astra.

    This bench famously detected a degradation of Opus 4.6 which Anthropic later blogged about. I personally think people sense nerfs more often than they happen and that it&#x27;s often about honeymoon effects.

    1. user3939382 · · focus · HN ↗
      Anthropic A&#x2F;Bs my weekly quota amount. So I have an automated prompt that runs at 3 AM with a transcription task, I measure input and output tokens, and weekly&#x2F;5 hour quota before and after. The absolute token counts stay within 0.1% while in mode A it counts for 1% of my 5 hour quota and mode B 4% of my 5 hour quota.
      1. jacquesm · · focus · HN ↗
        How did pissing off your customers ever become a business model?

        I can&#x27;t imagine sticking with a supplier that plays games like that with me. Tokens are a pretty vague quantity to begin with (you don&#x27;t control how many tokens a model puts out in response) and giving a couple of purposefully wrong responses will happily inflate your bill, but you don&#x27;t care because eventually it worked. It&#x27;s almost an ideal vehicle to scam people.

        Imagine the power company being able to decide how much you consume and at which price point.

        1. none_to_remain · · focus · HN ↗
          I find it amazingly rich that they bill you for &quot;&quot;&quot;thinking&quot;&quot;&quot; tokens and now you don&#x27;t even get to see them, they&#x27;re gonna train the thing to sing &quot;99 Bottles of Beer on the Wall&quot; to itself before it starts work.
          1. Turskarama · · focus · HN ↗
            They don&#x27;t want to waste tokens on purpose, what they&#x27;re actually hiding is when the model wastes tokens on obviously stupid &quot;thoughts&quot;.
            1. adastra22 · · focus · HN ↗
              No they are hiding the chain of thought to make distillation harder.
              1. slim · · focus · HN ↗
                It&#x27;s fascinating that you all think accounting is real and it did not come to your mind that they could make up numbers when billing
                1. TeMPOraL · · focus · HN ↗
                  They could, but as you see here, people are very eager to create dashboards and trackers that do external accounting by proxy, so they can&#x27;t just &quot;make up numbers&quot; without the customers noticing and making a fuss.
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