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Livenerf: Has Opus 5.5 been nerfed yet?

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  1. jug · · focus · HN ↗
    We also have Nerf Bench:

    <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.bridgebench.ai&#x2F;nerf-bench" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.bridgebench.ai&#x2F;nerf-bench

    They test it on launch day, then benchmark it against that. A deviation of above 10% is considered a change. They&#x27;re currently tracking Opus 5.5 and GPT-6 Astra.

    This bench famously detected a degradation of Opus 4.6 which Anthropic later blogged about. I personally think people sense nerfs more often than they happen and that it&#x27;s often about honeymoon effects.

    1. user3939382 · · focus · HN ↗
      Anthropic A&#x2F;Bs my weekly quota amount. So I have an automated prompt that runs at 3 AM with a transcription task, I measure input and output tokens, and weekly&#x2F;5 hour quota before and after. The absolute token counts stay within 0.1% while in mode A it counts for 1% of my 5 hour quota and mode B 4% of my 5 hour quota.
      1. jacquesm · · focus · HN ↗
        How did pissing off your customers ever become a business model?

        I can&#x27;t imagine sticking with a supplier that plays games like that with me. Tokens are a pretty vague quantity to begin with (you don&#x27;t control how many tokens a model puts out in response) and giving a couple of purposefully wrong responses will happily inflate your bill, but you don&#x27;t care because eventually it worked. It&#x27;s almost an ideal vehicle to scam people.

        Imagine the power company being able to decide how much you consume and at which price point.

        1. topspin · · focus · HN ↗
          It&#x27;s worked for online PvP gaming for a long time. Nerf stuff the min-maxers &quot;earned&quot; through game mechanics and sell over-powered &quot;premium&quot; things to everyone else to pwn them. Then nerf the old premium stuff and make new premium stuff. Forever.

          I don&#x27;t know if that&#x27;s the actual origin of the term nerf, but it was the first time I&#x27;d heard it.

          1. done_lurking · · focus · HN ↗
            I think the origin of the word &quot;nerf&quot; as a verb came from the Nerf brand of toy guns. The idea being that &quot;Nerfing&quot; something is to turn it into a harmless version of itself.
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