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We’re forgetting what darkness feels like

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  1. r3trohack3r · · focus · HN ↗
    Darkness is one of the benefits of a high trust society.

    Do we need bright white flood lights in places like Portland? Yes, they strongly correlate with reduced crime on the premise. This is the cost of a medium trust society.

    Find a way to not have people regularly vandalize and B&E; many of the countermeasures can go away.

    I live in a dark sky community and my property is unlit. I don’t worry about people walking onto my property at 2am.

    1. duskdozer · · focus · HN ↗
      This is a common myth. Increased lighting does not reduce crime or improve safety[0,1], especially not poorly designed lighting - like the excessively bright and blue-tinted spotlights - which can even make things worse[2], by increasing glare, preventing our eyes from adjusting to the night, and increasing the number and contrast of relative dark spots.

      Regardless, if one still lights up their own property due to anxiety, it's not a justification for causing light pollution. That light should remain on their property with angling and shielding.

      [0]<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.ojp.gov&#x2F;ncjrs&#x2F;virtual-library&#x2F;abstracts&#x2F;chicago-alley-lighting-project-final-evaluation-report" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.ojp.gov&#x2F;ncjrs&#x2F;virtual-library&#x2F;abstracts&#x2F;chicago-...

      [1]<a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;jech.bmj.com&#x2F;content&#x2F;early&#x2F;2015&#x2F;07&#x2F;08&#x2F;jech-2015-206012" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;jech.bmj.com&#x2F;content&#x2F;early&#x2F;2015&#x2F;07&#x2F;08&#x2F;jech-2015-20601...

      [2]<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;theconversation.com&#x2F;more-lighting-alone-does-not-create-safer-cities-look-at-what-research-with-young-women-tells-us-113359" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;theconversation.com&#x2F;more-lighting-alone-does-not-cre...

      1. r3trohack3r · · focus · HN ↗
        Swedish meta analysis from 2021 [1]

        &gt; It is concluded that street lighting continues to be an effective intervention in preventing crime in public places. A narrative synthesis of effects of the eight new studies and a meta-analysis of 17 studies confirmed this conclusion. In pooling the effects of 17 studies that could be included in the meta-analysis, it was found that street lighting led to a significant 14% decrease in crime in experimental areas compared with comparable control areas.

        [1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;bra.se&#x2F;download&#x2F;18.47bb43da192711ebb374ea5&#x2F;1729505968738&#x2F;2022_Effectiveness_of_Street_Lighting_in_Preventing_Crime_in_Public_Places.pdf" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;bra.se&#x2F;download&#x2F;18.47bb43da192711ebb374ea5&#x2F;172950596...

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