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Vermont replacing power plants with home batteries

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  1. alexnewman · · focus · HN ↗
    Note I have a Tesla powerwall at home. They installed it inside before I bought the house. I always wonder what happens when these things catch fire
    1. margalabargala · · focus · HN ↗
      > I always wonder what happens when these things catch fire

      If you're hoping someone will chime in to tell you they have magic firefighting foam inside them or something, I regret to inform you that what happens if it catches fire is exactly what one might naively expect from large lithium batteries.

      1. SoftTalker · · focus · HN ↗
        Yep. I'd never have a large battery like that in my house. Outside, a safe distance away, maybe.
        1. bradfa · · focus · HN ↗
          Unless you plan to physically assault it with weapons, it’s extremely unlikely to catch fire.
        2. fhdkweig · · focus · HN ↗
          Newer LiFePo4 (Lithium Iron Phosphate) batteries don't have the fire issues that the previous Lithium Ion generation did. They are a bit more expensive and heavier, but they are superior in every other way (safety, lifespan, max charge cycles).
          1. Synaesthesia · · focus · HN ↗
            They're actually cheaper than NMC and are the dominant chemistry.
    2. medler · · focus · HN ↗
      Which version do you have? I believe they switched to LFP for V3, which should pose significantly less fire risk than the NMC chemistry they were using for V2 and before
      1. alexnewman · · focus · HN ↗
        V2+
    3. thelastgallon · · focus · HN ↗
      A battery being tested: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=WPTgg3joL5E" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=WPTgg3joL5E

      CATL: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=WPTgg3joL5E" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=WPTgg3joL5E

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