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Tcl/Tk 9.1

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  1. baggachipz · · focus · HN ↗
    New version of AOLServer incoming?
    1. elitepleb · · focus · HN ↗
      <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;naviserver-project&#x2F;naviserver" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;naviserver-project&#x2F;naviserver has you covered
      1. WillAdams · · focus · HN ↗
        Now if we could just bring back Navi&#x2F;AOLPress....
    2. pjmlp · · focus · HN ↗
      Ah, the memories.

      The startup I joined in 1999 had its own application server loosely based on AOLServer architecture.

      We had Apache + mod_tcl, IIS with our own ISAPI extension, then in box connections for all major RDMS across all key UNIXes and Windows NT&#x2F;2000.

      Some left to join companies doing Vignette projects, others eventually created OutSystems redoing the same ideas, but with the newly released .NET.

      However it was also a lesson in performance issues, and the constant pressure to rewrite Tcl code into C extensions.

      1. baggachipz · · focus · HN ↗
        I used it when I worked at AOL :)

        Was great for rapid prototyping and a&#x2F;b testing in volume. Not sure I&#x27;d pick it ever again for anything, but it was interesting for sure.

        1. RHSeeger · · focus · HN ↗
          Same here. I enjoyed that time&#x2F;experience a lot.
        2. pjmlp · · focus · HN ↗
          When Rails came out, I was like what is the buzz all about, we have been doing this already for several years.
      2. wombatpm · · focus · HN ↗
        I remember using tcl inside pages running under Vignette Story Server circa 2000 before we started with jsp
    3. fithisux · · focus · HN ↗
      Or Kenny Tilton&#x27;s celtk or cello?
    4. shaky-carrousel · · focus · HN ↗
      And OpenACS!
    5. gbacon · · focus · HN ↗
      Phil Greenspun is still active on X: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;x.com&#x2F;PhilipGreenspun" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;x.com&#x2F;PhilipGreenspun

      Some throwbacks of his from 1999:

      <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;philip.greenspun.com&#x2F;wtr&#x2F;aolserver&#x2F;introduction-1.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;philip.greenspun.com&#x2F;wtr&#x2F;aolserver&#x2F;introduction-1.ht...

      <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;philip.greenspun.com&#x2F;wtr&#x2F;aolserver&#x2F;introduction-2.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;philip.greenspun.com&#x2F;wtr&#x2F;aolserver&#x2F;introduction-2.ht...

      1. so-cal-schemer · · focus · HN ↗
        As a teen I attended a weeklong ArsDigita workshop in the vault of their Pasadena office. It was in an old bank building on Green St. Aeron chairs, Sun Ray thin clients (iirc), a huge circular bank vault door...

        I remember being introduced to regex one day, and later the instructor (a Caltech PhD?) being surprised my code passed all his tests in a class review.

        Really, a wonderful experience.

        1. so-cal-schemer · · focus · HN ↗
          I thank my cousin, who lived by the 7Cs, for hosting me and driving so far to pick me up the first night (after I hung out waay too long with new acquaintances in the AD office).

          And I remember, after a day of learning Tcl, while waiting for an express bus back to Claremont, listening to a woman belt out opera on an empty Colorado Blvd in front of Vroman&#x27;s, like a private opera rehearsal.

          Such a classy city.

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