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Dots: Always-on agents

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  1. johnfahey · · focus · HN ↗
    OpenAI won a lot of good favor for the generous Codex subscription and the efficiency of their models, but now that many people have switched over from Claude, they think they can leverage their position to peddle a stream of unnecessary products, and crack down on the generous limits[1] that brought everyone to Codex in the first place.

    Anthropic did the same thing. Earlier this year, Claude subs and Claude Code took off because of the subscription's incredible capability and value, then once they gained enough users, they started focusing on unnecessary products no one asked for (see Claude in Slack), and eventually lost their lead. After losing a bunch of customers to Codex subs they realized their mistake, and now they're shipping again.

    AI companies are bad at making software; they are good at making AI models. And that's about it.

    [1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;x.com&#x2F;thsottiaux&#x2F;status&#x2F;2104823812042940713" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;x.com&#x2F;thsottiaux&#x2F;status&#x2F;2104823812042940713

    1. torginus · · focus · HN ↗
      Nerds suck. They are smelly, have bad posture, manners, never leave their rooms and are generally unappealing.

      They also have a nasty habit of being aware of nefarious practices, will resist all attempts to and harvest their data, or lock them into your service, and will drop you if your competitor makes a 3% better product, and will reject every upsell for actually profitable services.

      Plus there is only so many of them.

      1. panarky · · focus · HN ↗
        A wave of nausea hit when I first saw the warm, fuzzy, cutesy, kawaii, Teletubby-like avatar that Meta gave its Muse agent.

        And now OpenAI has done the same thing with their fuzzy, friendly, colorful dots.

        I am physically sick.

        1. windexh8er · · focus · HN ↗
          The best part about Muse is they think that the Enterprise is going to start buying things from Meta that looks like it belongs in a preschool. Muse and Ray-Ban surveillance glasses, Zuck must live in one hell of an echo chamber!
          1. Super_Jambo · · focus · HN ↗
            From the careless people woman we learn that he is unaccustomed to losing at Settlers of Catan because they all let him win.

            If you&#x27;re not much of a board game person this is _wild_ because Catan gets annoying with 1 beginner since you can see how the end up gifting the win to someone else.

            So he either knows people are letting him win (and got mad at the newbie who didn&#x27;t?) or he&#x27;s too stupid to see them make mistakes or he thinks they&#x27;re idiots but he keeps playing with them?

            I dunno there was a lot of stuff from her that was damning but somehow this is the most damning thing to me real insight into the man.

            Reminds me of the UK prime minister&#x27;s close protection officer and inner circle all gambling on the election date and getting caught.

            What degree of corruption did you witness that this seemed OK?

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