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  1. johnfahey · · focus · HN ↗
    OpenAI won a lot of good favor for the generous Codex subscription and the efficiency of their models, but now that many people have switched over from Claude, they think they can leverage their position to peddle a stream of unnecessary products, and crack down on the generous limits[1] that brought everyone to Codex in the first place.

    Anthropic did the same thing. Earlier this year, Claude subs and Claude Code took off because of the subscription's incredible capability and value, then once they gained enough users, they started focusing on unnecessary products no one asked for (see Claude in Slack), and eventually lost their lead. After losing a bunch of customers to Codex subs they realized their mistake, and now they're shipping again.

    AI companies are bad at making software; they are good at making AI models. And that's about it.

    [1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;x.com&#x2F;thsottiaux&#x2F;status&#x2F;2104823812042940713" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;x.com&#x2F;thsottiaux&#x2F;status&#x2F;2104823812042940713

    1. teej · · focus · HN ↗
      They&#x27;re just trying things. It&#x27;s not a conspiracy to &quot;distract&quot; anyone.
      1. johnfahey · · focus · HN ↗
        I don&#x27;t think it&#x27;s a conspiracy, they&#x27;re just making the same mistake many other software companies have in the past. When you sell your products to the most discerning and well-informed consumers, you enter into a cutthroat race to the bottom. OpenAI would like to diversify to more profitable ventures, but since ChatGPT they have yet to release something novel that was truly successful, nonetheless profitable, and thusfar nearly every experiment has been a flop, so to speak (ChatGPT Atlas, the Sora App, Instant Checkout, etc).
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