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GPT 6.1 Sol: Near-Astra intelligence for a fifth of the price

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  1. IshKebab · · focus · HN ↗
    I wish they'd list the environmental cost. My employer has an unlimited AI budget so I don't care about using Astra if it's just more profit for OpenAI. I care more if it actually uses 5x more energy.
    1. rs_rs_rs_rs_rs · · focus · HN ↗
      I don't understand the point of this, why just now when it comes to llms. Why wasn't anyone enraged with the environmental costs of kids playing video games. I would not be surprised the environmental cost of that is an order of magnitude bigger than what llms have.

      Edit: for context, just Steam alone has ~200million monthly active users.

      1. paulryanrogers · · focus · HN ↗
        Considering Nvidia's hard shift to crypto and now AI, I doubt videogames are even in the same ballpark.

        How many DCs are devoted solely to gaming?

        1. lp92 · · focus · HN ↗
          Considering many games make use of cloud computing for online play and similar functions, they probably make up a pretty goot bit of global cloud compute capacity. Likely quite a lot less than the big AI players, but not an insignificant amount.
          1. HelloMcFly · · focus · HN ↗
            The energy costs of the cloud computing required for gaming are substantially less in power - not to mention overall demand - than LLMs. Come on, we're not in the same energy ballpark here.
            1. rs_rs_rs_rs_rs · · focus · HN ↗
              >The energy costs of the cloud computing required for gaming are substantially less in power

              Yes but it adds up when you consider that just on Steam alone there are 200 million monthly active users.

              1. paulryanrogers · · focus · HN ↗
                Steam games can run on less than 4GB of RAM, and per person are likely played only an hour or so a day. AI hyper scalars use far more to serve a single customer.
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