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GPT 6.1 Sol: Near-Astra intelligence for a fifth of the price

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  1. Aboutplants · · focus · HN ↗
    “OpenAI's new Pro 500 plan offers OpenAI's highest usage allowance and comes with access to its new "Ultrafast" feature — it also costs $500 per month.

    At the same time, OpenAI is also making its existing $200 Pro plan less appealing. In Codex and Work, $200 Pro subscribers will see their included usage decrease from 20x of what the company offers to Plus users, down to 10x of that same allowance. In ChatGPT, meanwhile, GPT-6 Pro message caps will decrease from 200 to 100 per week.”

    <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.engadget.com&#x2F;2272106&#x2F;openai-adds-dollar500-pro-subscription-nerfs-its-existing-dollar200-tier&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.engadget.com&#x2F;2272106&#x2F;openai-adds-dollar500-pro-s...

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    1. moregrist · · focus · HN ↗
      This is pretty typical product positioning. You want to sell to both high-end and low-end users, so you offer products at a few price points. Then it turns out that that middle is a much better fit for most users. So you start making the middle a worse fit to push most of those users into the higher tiers.

      Long term, this only works if you have a non-commodity, and if the higher tier is actually more profitable. We&#x27;ll eventually learn whether both are true. For OpenAI right now, it&#x27;s probably enough to just increase revenue, even if the higher tier is even less profitable.

      1. 5555watch · · focus · HN ↗
        The 200$ plan was appealing because you got 4x usage for 2x the price.

        Now, as it&#x27;s linear, it makes much more sense to downgrade to 100$ OAI and pick up a 100$ Claude sub. (without doing the numbers) the usage should remain the same, total paid the same, but having access to best of both worlds. It should be a win for the user, and a loss for OAI.

        With this in mind, it sounds like a fumble by OAI.

        1. jpadkins · · focus · HN ↗
          This is what I did. Hope it works out. The other benefit is you have a more natural method to avoid lock in. A lot of &quot;improvements&quot; to the agent harness I believe are attempts to build customer lock in.
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