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GPT 6.1 Sol: Near-Astra intelligence for a fifth of the price

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Aboutplants · 1790703271 · focus · HN ↗
“OpenAI's new Pro 500 plan offers OpenAI's highest usage allowance and comes with access to its new "Ultrafast" feature — it also costs $500 per month.
At the same time, OpenAI is also making its existing $200 Pro plan less appealing. In Codex and Work, $200 Pro subscribers will see their included usage decrease from 20x of what the company offers to Plus users, down to 10x of that same allowance. In ChatGPT, meanwhile, GPT-6 Pro message caps will decrease from 200 to 100 per week.”
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1. honkycat · 1790704150 · focus · HN ↗
  Wow, canceling my sub. Lets see how Claude is doing these days.
  I can justify $200/mo but more than double is not appealing to me.
  1. WinstonSmith84 · 1790704455 · focus · HN ↗
    Well, here is a breaking-news for you: the 20x from Claude is not a 20x on the weekly usage, it's a 20x on the 5h usage, while the weekly usage is simply double the $100 plan...
    Basically OpenAI aligned with Anthropic on the weekly usage with the caveat that OpenAI doesn't have a 5h limit.
    MCArth · 1790705257 · focus · HN ↗
    If you've used both you know the OpenAI plans don't compare to Anthropic plans _at all_. Claude code subscriptions are probably worth 4x as much in API spend compared to the same OpenAI subscription tier.
    nostrebored · 1790710350 · focus · HN ↗
    I think you have probably started using OpenAI recently -- one draw used to be that it was really, really hard to ever hit limits. If you did, you probably had usage resets available.
    I think this is still true provided you're not using Astra.
    machomaster · 1790717469 · focus · HN ↗
    The shitty thing about OpenAI's resets is that, unlike Anthropic, they also reset the limit (on the next natural weekly reset). It means that of you pushed the reset button 5 days into the week, you only get 2 days' (2/7 of weekly) worth of extra tokens.
    cromka · 1790761583 · focus · HN ↗
    Most recent two resets were banked?
    machomaster · 1790811836 · focus · HN ↗
    Yes, as I mentioned as well.
    An example. Let's assume that the work is evenly divided between days.
    Imagine you want to work twice as much.
    1. How efficiently can you use the reset credits if they would not reset the normal reset time?
    Work with your normal weekly quota 3.5 days, press reset, work with new tokens for the rest of the week. Efficiency 100%.
    2. With natural reset time going forward 7 days after each artificial reset.
    You work for 3.5 days, press the reset, work for 3.5 days, wait for another 3.5 days for the natural reset, work for 3.5 days, press manual reset, work for 3.5 days, wait for 3.5 days... You can calculate the number for decreased efficiency yourself.
    cromka · 1790851614 · focus · HN ↗
    Oh right, I missed your point. Yeah I guess those resets are only for when your workload required you to use all the allowance before end of week. Then you reset and are back to fresh "regular" (non-overloaded) week. But I agree it would be nicer if it worked like you wish.
    andriy_koval · 1790713075 · focus · HN ↗
    people say this, but I am wondering if there is benchmark/dashboard which actually measures this?

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