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DraftKings is using AI to behaviorally target chronic gamblers

570 points · 432 comments · paimapi

  1. tedivm · · focus · HN ↗
    ProPublica had one of their reports work with gambling addition experts to see how DraftKings would respond to someone presenting signs of a gambling problem. It's a hell of a read, and makes it clear that this company is full of people with absolutely no ethics whatsoever.

    <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.propublica.org&#x2F;article&#x2F;draftkings-sports-gambling-problem-vip-fanduel" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.propublica.org&#x2F;article&#x2F;draftkings-sports-gamblin...

    1. WheelsAtLarge · · focus · HN ↗
      People in companies that are a negative public good are by definition unethical. I&#x27;m not surprised by anything they do. The real problem is how we&#x27;ve let these companies infiltrate so much of our society so fast. I can&#x27;t consume any ad supported media without getting some ad about them. This company really defines the phrase &quot;money talks&quot;
      1. stronglikedan · · focus · HN ↗
        Many people enjoy gambling, and relatively few have a &quot;problem&quot;, so &quot;negative public good&quot; is doing a lot of work there. DraftKings may indeed by unethical, but that doesn&#x27;t mean that all or even most others are.
        1. SaucyWrong · · focus · HN ↗
          In my state (Massachusetts), the number of people who call in to the state’s gambling problem hotline doubled after online sports books became legalized. That is, by definition, a negative effect on the public good. The net number of people seeking help for gambling problems increased by 100%.
          1. pbronez · · focus · HN ↗
            It’s definitely bad that twice as many people have a gambling problem. However to assess the NET impact you also have to count how much value&#x2F;fun&#x2F;whatever the non-problem-gamblers are having, plus whatever tax revenues you get, increased economic activity from more attention on sports, etc.

            Personally I think these companies suck. Just need more work to make a strong good faith argument about it.

            1. AlexandrB · · focus · HN ↗
              My problem with sports gambling is that all these companies are lying. If you win a lot you get (the gambling equivalent of) shadow banned[1]. The provider pretends they&#x27;re providing a game where you can &quot;win big&quot; and it&#x27;s all up to your knowledge of sports, but the reality is that it&#x27;s a skewed playing field where you can either lose or lose more.

              The common industry explanation is that this is because they would be unprofitable if they allowed &quot;winners&quot; to keep betting, which tells you everything you need to know. These businesses can only exist because they&#x27;re allowed to skew the odds in their favour. Eliminate this unfair practice and the problem goes away on its own.

              [1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.theguardian.com&#x2F;society&#x2F;2022&#x2F;feb&#x2F;19&#x2F;stake-factoring-how-bookies-clamp-down-on-successful-gamblers" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.theguardian.com&#x2F;society&#x2F;2022&#x2F;feb&#x2F;19&#x2F;stake-factor...

              1. lordnacho · · focus · HN ↗
                But the two big players in question do not do this, do they?
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