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Netanyahu claims ability to hack any iPhone and plant false evidence

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gravisultra · 1790695898 · focus · HN ↗
<a href="https://xxcancel.com/dlLambo/status/2104852335272878530" rel="nofollow">https://xxcancel.com/dlLambo/status/2104852335272878530
steeve · 1790696712 · focus · HN ↗
Whereas some people in tech are proud to post selfies with him, the actual monster.
akfnioknio · 1790696726 · focus · HN ↗
Whether this is true or not, I think someone making the claim is good news. People trust digital forensic evidence more than they should. Some FUD is a useful corrective.
b112 · 1790696761 · focus · HN ↗
So... It's a link to a guy claiming he said those exact words? With no context? Or proof? Why no link to a reputable source, instead of some randon dude?
1. goda90 · 1790696883 · focus · HN ↗
  There's a video in the link of a 60 minutes interview with him. Maybe the video didn't load for you?
  1. b112 · 1790697084 · focus · HN ↗
    It did not. It would be nice to know where in this video, and it would be nice to know context.
    Context means everything.
    goda90 · 1790697212 · focus · HN ↗
    This comment links to a Nitter(Twitter alternative frontend) redirector version of the post that might have better luck loading the video: <a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49895060">https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49895060
    Are you blocking Javascript or anything? Are you in a country or on a network where Twitter/X videos might get blocked automatically?
    Panino · 1790698279 · focus · HN ↗
    I think you misunderstand what GP is saying. Context, in this context, is the conversation leading up to the statement that gives the statement meaning. You have to use context to understand what is actually being communicated. For all we know, Netanyahu was only saying that devices are insecure, and to drive the point home, said something scary to the interviewer to get them to understand on a personal level (since many people don't really even pay attention unless they think something affects them personally).
    Netanyahu is a monster (I seriously thought he was going to prison any day now back in 2017, what is even happening?) so I assume the worst here. I'd love to see context but I don't owe Netanyahu my personal time tracking it down.
    But context is criticially important. I guess they're not teaching it in school anymore? They taught us this in elementary along with the 5 Ws, which is another loss. And while I'm on the subject, kids don't know how to cite sources anymore. Made up quotes via text as image. Cool citation "bro."
    goda90 · 1790700722 · focus · HN ↗
    While it's fair to want more context, the person I was replying to clearly did not watch the video at all, which was what I was addressing. In their first comment they didn't understand that a direct quote was involved. In their second comment they asked where in a 27-second video the quote is.
2. gravisultra · 1790697117 · focus · HN ↗
  It's a video of Netanyahu directly saying this.
goda90 · 1790696816 · focus · HN ↗
Is he claiming to plant false evidence, or just that smartphones are a great tool for social manipulation? I would believe both are the case, but it's just that "penetrate" could be ambiguous in the sense that getting propaganda in front of people's eyes could be considered a kind of penetration.
1. polotics · 1790697854 · focus · HN ↗
  Theory number one after catching up with some Israeli friends: he is clutching at straws trying to do preemptive damage control about the evidence that is going to come out about him...
  Namely that on top of the documented fact that he turned a blind eye to the funding channels that were strengthening Hamas, because he likes his enemies to be radical non-negotiators, he also was informed about October 7th but decided it would be expedient to let the horror happen as he thought he could use it to strengthen his power.
megous · 1790696943 · focus · HN ↗
He's certainly right about his modus operandi: "If I'll say it often enough, enough people will believe it."
And I'd think he himself can't hack shit. :D
y-c-o-m-b · 1790698091 · focus · HN ↗
Isn't that effectively what Pegasus is? <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pegasus_(spyware)" rel="nofollow">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pegasus_(spyware)
This is not new information (at least to me)
brewcejener · 1790698655 · focus · HN ↗
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recursivedoubts · 1790700074 · focus · HN ↗
OK, cool, so did we just eliminate the possibility of using iPhone evidence in any case involving shadow-of-a-doubt?
1. downrightmike · 1790701650 · focus · HN ↗
  Axos camera's ceo has another company that does the same thing with ALPR cameras
Jamesbeam · 1790708804 · focus · HN ↗
And that’s how Benjamin Netanyahu personally planted false evidence on Jeffrey Epstein’s phone about you and then did proceed to steal your election, Mr President.

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