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macOS Golden Gate Is a Buggy Mess

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  1. srmatto · · focus · HN ↗
    Apple is extremely lucky to have users like this who still work tirelessly to find and report these types of problems. They would do well to listen.
    1. larodi · · focus · HN ↗
      Why wouldn't Apple encourage devout users such as the author, to claim actual bounties for such finds? Like - a pair of pods for every 5 UI bugs they find? Tis a rich company after all...
      1. etatester · · focus · HN ↗
        Ludicrous. Bug reports by the average user are worthless and generally a net negative if you consider incorrect and duplicate reports.

        Paying user for bug reports would just incentivize very prolific spammers (you know who) to fuzz your entire OS and automate sending thousands of reports a day.

        1. astrange · · focus · HN ↗
          Even correct bug reports are a drain on your engineers' time and attention, and it frustrates power users to file them because being amateurs they often put too much effort into doing it.

          Apple traditionally had a culture of a lot of high quality bug reports, but once those become too fast for anyone to keep in their head, there's no point to them because they'll just get lost. You might as well just go look for bugs if you run out of some. You'll find them.

        2. larodi · · focus · HN ↗
          There must be a way for certain automated vetting in 2026 for this, you think in terms of human reviews. Most of what's in this article is easily confirmed by VLMs today (IMHO at least, and I do a shitloads of VLM work for more than an year now, daily).
    2. VCFundedGenYer · · focus · HN ↗
      These are pretty worthless critiques. In the grand scheme of things, they worked on items that actually matter as opposed to these minor things that no one will notice.
      1. the_lucifer · · focus · HN ↗
        Well, it sounds like you fundamentally misunderstand the appeal and the DNA of what macOS strived for then:

        > "When you’re a carpenter making a beautiful chest of drawers, you’re not going to use a piece of plywood on the back, even though it faces the wall and nobody will ever see it. You’ll know it’s there, so you’re going to use a beautiful piece of wood on the back. For you to sleep well at night, the aesthetic, the quality, has to be carried all the way through."

        These things matter because that's what the OS has been championing for years. It's not Windows where it's almost expected to see a random Windows 95 dialog when you're trying to do something.

        Apple slipping here means they've lost sight of their DNA and that's rot-from-within bad. If you are careful of the small details, that means they care enough that the larger details will iron themselves out.

        Yes, like you said, there's bigger things that matter, but Apple's older software quality strived to achieve both, not just one or the other

      2. vor_ · · focus · HN ↗
        They broke Mission Control, and people have definitely noticed it. But with regard to smaller details, Apple used to take pride in paying attention to such things. Scott Forstall would go over Apple's interfaces using a photography loupe. Your "who cares" sloppy attitude is a relatively new thing in the Apple world.
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