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macOS Golden Gate Is a Buggy Mess

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  1. kstrauser · · focus · HN ↗
    It’s been a strict improvement on my computers, which isn’t to say that the author isn’t having problems, just that theirs (or mine!) isn’t the universal experience.

    And they’ve finally fixed some annoying, long-endured audio bugs: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;weblog.rogueamoeba.com&#x2F;2026&#x2F;09&#x2F;24&#x2F;macos-27-fixes-multiple-audio-bugs&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;weblog.rogueamoeba.com&#x2F;2026&#x2F;09&#x2F;24&#x2F;macos-27-fixes-mul...

    1. galad87 · · focus · HN ↗
      They surely fixed a lot of bugs, but not enough, and they added so many new stupid ones. Mission Control wasn&#x27;t perfect before, but at least it wasn&#x27;t buggy. Now there is a bug every two clicks.

      Even double-clicking in Finder is broken, many times double-clicks are just ignored.

      1. barrowclift · · focus · HN ↗
        Thank you for this; this has been driving me nuts the past week and it never once occurred to me it might be a genuine issue with the new OS and not my double-click muscles beginning to fail.
      2. mnadkvlb · · focus · HN ↗
        I cant drag and drop any more in finder somehow. it was working fine, now it works and then i have to restart or it is not working at all. what a mess
        1. binaryturtle · · focus · HN ↗
          Occasionally drag&#x27;n&#x27;drop failures —where it just stops working— I experienced already with Yosemite, so it may be a VERY old bug. :) Usually you would see &quot;CoreDragError&quot; codes popping up in the system.log

          Rather than rebooting, I just kill &quot;pboard&quot; in Activity Monitor, and afterwards restart a few GUI programs that were directly affected (including Finder and Dock.)

          My wild theory is that Firefox is the culprit. At least the issues happened more frequently once I had to switch to Firefox for proper content blocking extensions. Anyway… I have no idea how to prove that, so it&#x27;s just a guess, not a blame.

        2. adriand · · focus · HN ↗
          Well, I&#x27;ve been sitting on Sequoia this whole time, because I decided to sit Tahoe out, based on what I heard on HN. Maybe I&#x27;ll sit Golden Gate out too!
          1. lanamo · · focus · HN ↗
            same! will stay on Sequoia. Liquid Glass is so ugly
            1. 1potato · · focus · HN ↗
              I’m going to express what seems to be an unpopular opinion and say that I actually quite like Liquid Glass. It reminds me a bit of the Aqua design language, which made me quite envious back when I was using Win98SE.

              Many people have complained about how hard it is to find a safe place to grab windows in Tahoe when you want to move them, though, and I absolutely agree with that complaint.

          2. funkydata · · focus · HN ↗
            Same here: 15.8. I&#x27;m still running Intel Macs. Homebrew is out, Macports are in. Xcode 26.3. Everything else works just fine with a bit of patching (e.g Vagrant).
      3. mort96 · · focus · HN ↗
        My favorite thing they broke is that there is no longer an animation when launching and dismissing Spotlight in its Launchpad mode (i.e 4 finger pinch on trackpad). I mean there is an animation, but it&#x27;s only visible if I&#x27;m pinching slowly. If I do it at normal speed, there&#x27;s just a half-second delay and then it pops in or out.

        I suspect they made the animation so heavy that it reaches its deadline before it even starts, so it gets skipped.

        Not sure if it&#x27;s better or worse than Tahoe, where the animation (mostly) worked but app icons either popped in all at once a bit later or were rendered one by one from top-left to bottom-right.

        It&#x27;s such a buggy mess. When using my Mac these days I miss the polish of my Linux desktop.

        1. Henchman21 · · focus · HN ↗
          &gt; When using my Mac these days I miss the polish of my Linux desktop.

          Just highlighting this sentence.

          1. SimonTemplar · · focus · HN ↗
            He must mean the language :)
          2. dzhiurgis · · focus · HN ↗
            With how easy it is to vibe code everything Apple’s walled garden days are numbered
      4. Hamuko · · focus · HN ↗
        I use the &quot;Switch to Desktop N&quot; keyboard shortcuts for Mission Control, bound to Ctrl + 1–4, and those shortcuts constantly break in Golden Gate. Usually it only allows me to do Ctrl + 1 for the first desktop, and 2–4 do nothing.

        Thankfully you can fix them by running `killall Dock`, until they break again an hour later.

      5. e40 · · focus · HN ↗
        The Finder bug is very annoying.
    2. scragz · · focus · HN ↗
      they may have fixed audio bugs but it broke ableton was my main complaint.
    3. thedanbob · · focus · HN ↗
      They didn&#x27;t fix one pretty big audio bug (or possibly introduced it?) which bit me the other day: I attempted to use an aggregate audio device consisting of the headphone jack and a USB audio interface. Randomly every few minutes, the outputs would get rearranged and my audio would get routed to the wrong places. It was definitely the aggregate device, since it hasn&#x27;t happened again since I switched to just the USB interface.
    4. microtonal · · focus · HN ↗
      Golden gate has been ok-ish for me. I am more annoyed by the constant render stutters in iOS. It got worse with iOS 26 (tested on iPhone 17 Pro and iPhone Air) and it is still pretty bad with iOS 27 (tested on iPhone Air and iPhone 18 Pro).

      Some apps like the App Store or Mastodon are a complete stutter fest, even when you let them preload all assets. But it even happens in very basic apps like the Settings app.

      Meanwhile my woefully underpowered Pixel 10 Pro (on par with a flagship from a few years ago) with GrapheneOS is butter smooth in nearly every app.

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