I'm not sure this is even conceivable, but... Imagine the bootstrap problem of intelligence systems going down, when no one knows how to bring them back up without the system itself walking them through it... Like if power and intelligence were to go down in a Carrington-class event in 10 years...
Like what would happen to individuals ten years from now who are trying to live if AI suddenly became inaccessible
Of course we all know most humans are useless and unable to survive outside our culture, but the difference is that I'm trying to picture is the individual trying the reason through challenges. The version of this that has been obvious to me up to now is that the individual didn't have the knowledge to look after themselves. But I guess it feels different to conceive of them not having the ability to fully reason on their own...?
To not just lack the objects of intelligence, but the very process of it...
Sounds like a bad novel. In the year 2050 no one knows how to actually program anymore. Then ClaudeGPT by GoogleSoft goes down. A 74 year old former software developer is on his farm tending to hens.
A self driving car crashes into his barn.
Out comes out a tech bro, “Yo OG programmer bro, it’s all busted bro, could you like make it unbusted bro.”
Then again with social security set to go bankrupt it’s not like we’ll be able to retire
> Then again with social security set to go bankrupt it’s not like we’ll be able to retire
I don't know about you, but my notion that my social security check is all I will need to survive my retirement years died when my father started drafting his own social security in the 2010s, and it was literal peanuts after being a small business owner his entire life (restaurants) and paying more than his fair share in taxes. Do the average folk still have this notion that social security = retirement? Hopefully not, it's certainly misguided now, but it was misguided then, too.
> Then again with social security set to go bankrupt it’s not like we’ll be able to retire
That is why you should use current money to become less dependent on future money. That former developer on his farm had the right idea, he bought a farm. So did I, with many hectares of forest which I use to build, heat and can also use to hunt should that become necessary.
How afraid are you of not living right next to a hospital?
The nearest hospital is around 45 km to the north, there's another one at about the same distance to the south. There are roads here and there are helicopters for when it is urgent - one of those landed a few kilometres from us a few years ago when a 'neighbour' had heart problems. I'm in the countryside but that does not equate to 'the middle of nowhere'.
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Like what would happen to individuals ten years from now who are trying to live if AI suddenly became inaccessible
Of course we all know most humans are useless and unable to survive outside our culture, but the difference is that I'm trying to picture is the individual trying the reason through challenges. The version of this that has been obvious to me up to now is that the individual didn't have the knowledge to look after themselves. But I guess it feels different to conceive of them not having the ability to fully reason on their own...?
To not just lack the objects of intelligence, but the very process of it...
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A self driving car crashes into his barn.
Out comes out a tech bro, “Yo OG programmer bro, it’s all busted bro, could you like make it unbusted bro.”
Then again with social security set to go bankrupt it’s not like we’ll be able to retire
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What if the twist is that he’s writing spaghetti code that only he knows how to maintain.
Worse, it’s in a language that his llc charges licensing fees to use!
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I don't know about you, but my notion that my social security check is all I will need to survive my retirement years died when my father started drafting his own social security in the 2010s, and it was literal peanuts after being a small business owner his entire life (restaurants) and paying more than his fair share in taxes. Do the average folk still have this notion that social security = retirement? Hopefully not, it's certainly misguided now, but it was misguided then, too.
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The issue then is getting a visa.
Social security has a low maximum, if your dad was used to clearing 15k a month and then social security only paid him 3500$, that’s rough.
For the typical person only making around 4500$ , it’s an adjustment, but doable
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That is why you should use current money to become less dependent on future money. That former developer on his farm had the right idea, he bought a farm. So did I, with many hectares of forest which I use to build, heat and can also use to hunt should that become necessary.
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How far are you from the closet hospital.
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The nearest hospital is around 45 km to the north, there's another one at about the same distance to the south. There are roads here and there are helicopters for when it is urgent - one of those landed a few kilometres from us a few years ago when a 'neighbour' had heart problems. I'm in the countryside but that does not equate to 'the middle of nowhere'.