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1. toasty228 · 1790687453 · focus · HN ↗

   <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.oatext.com&#x2F;which-environment-makes-cancer.php" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.oatext.com&#x2F;which-environment-makes-cancer.php

   Always a good read, most cancers are environmental, and most of these are caused by obesity, bad diet and smoking&#x2F;drinking, fix these four things in your life and you reduce your chances of getting cancer by 50%+

   1. mapontosevenths · 1790691962 · focus · HN ↗

      I don&#x27;t think that anything you said is wrong, but I also think it&#x27;s important to note that on a long enough timeline your odds of getting cancer are 100% regardless of the way you live.Most people just don&#x27;t live that long.

      The things you mention here make it happen sooner, but no amount of healthy living lowers your risk to zero and I think that&#x27;s important to note when you say things like &quot;cancer is caused by&quot;.

      Cancer is caused by math. This stuff just steepens the slope.

      1. toasty228 · 1790693309 · focus · HN ↗

         It&#x27;s also important to note that getting a random cancer at 80+ sucks orders of magnitude less than going out at 45 from colon or throat cancer in every measurable metrics you can come up.

         1. devmor · 1790694924 · focus · HN ↗

            I would heavily disagree with this - it depends entirely on the cancer you get. If it&#x27;s something slow growing that would take a decade plus to kill you, sure - just trying to treat it would be worse than letting it ride.

            But my father died of cancer nearing age 80, (most likely mesothelioma, though we didn&#x27;t do heavy tests as it was discovered late), and it was incredibly painful and miserable for him. He had fast growing tumors in his ribs, forcing bone to spike out and hit his lungs, the tumors that grew in his lungs caused constant pneumonia and kept leaving him unable to get enough oxygen to his brain to communicate for hours at a time.

            1. jobs_throwaway · 1790698077 · focus · HN ↗

               That sounds far better than dying at 45 unless you have an extraordinarily unpleasant life in the interim

               1. devmor · 1790699982 · focus · HN ↗

                  I don&#x27;t think I want to die in excruciating pain and confusion at any age, personally.

                  1. alpinisme · 1790700348 · focus · HN ↗

                     I think the original point was that cancer 80+ is better than cancer at 45, so you should still try to avoid habits that make it more likely earlier, even if the chances remain 100% at sufficient time scales

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