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1. ck2 · 1790692218 · focus · HN ↗

   well they are finding forever-chemical and micro-plastics in all freshwater in the USA now and even in ALL mother's milk

   so safe bet that cancer rates are never going to be lower than they are today

   remember US also just deregulated all pollution from power plants, funded re-starting coal plants and dropped car engine efficiency requirements

   oh they are also trying to double oil-fracking output which toxifies groundwater and air for miles around it with offgassing

   every rocket launch and deorbit by starlink et all also put toxic pollution into the atmosphere

   so next decade should end well for cancer rates

   1. scottLobster · 1790692647 · focus · HN ↗

      You can't be worried about fracking and coal at the same time in the US. The former is the reason for the latter's demise

      1. ck2 · 1790694084 · focus · HN ↗

         wow that's the most repeat fallacy, I even see in political commercials now

         we don't use domestic oil, we sell it overseas

         and oil until pop-up "ai" datacenters was not used for power production

         you are thinking about solar and wind power for coal's demise

         which now they are also defunding, even worse reusing the funds for coal investment

         1. scottLobster · 1790695412 · focus · HN ↗

            No, but we get so much natural gas as a side effect of the fracking that we literally can't distribute it all, it's effectively free. Which is why natural gas plants have been displacing coal plants for the last 20 years.

            You... really need to read more before forming your opinions

         2. Vrondi · 1790696199 · focus · HN ↗

            No, really, when the fracking boom hit, it was so much cheaper than coal that it made a large dent in the coal industry for energy production. Solar and wind expansion have been far slower to roll out nationwide, but fracking was an almost overnight expansion of gas power production at that time.
         3. linkregister · 1790702323 · focus · HN ↗

            Solar and wind subsidies have been illegally halted, and are the subject of ongoing litigation.

            Solar and wind are commercially viable and provide about 30% of the electrical energy in Texas. Around 50% of California's daytime electrical energy is provided by solar and wind power. New projects are typically hamstrung by transmission permitting constraints.

            While subsidies would help substantially, they aren't a necessary condition for continued adoption of renewable energy sources. Storage is probably the next big hurdle to displace fossil fuels once there's sufficient progress with transmission.

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