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US sanctions force The Netherlands off Microsoft and toward alternative NixOS

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  1. MadrasThorn · · focus · HN ↗
    Trump attacking the Netherlands means transatlanticism is really dead.

    I think this has a lot to do with how the case against Putin was built and Trump used his influence to disrupt it.

    1. rapsey · · focus · HN ↗
      The EU is entirely subjugated to the US. No energy independence, militaries falling apart and out of date, no tech development or investment.
      1. mittensc · · focus · HN ↗
        Maybe that's wrong?

        The US can't even win a war in the middle east without NATO

        What is the US going to do when China starts making their own moves?

        1. bluGill · · focus · HN ↗
          > The US can't even win a war in the middle east without NATO

          That is false. The US could win a war in the middle east without NATO.

          The US has consistently chosen not to attempt to do so, but there is every reason to think they could. It is good that the US mostly tries to work with NATO on the middle east (and bad that Trump has not).

          The US has also consistently chosen to send minimal ground forces, and when they do send them they are very careful to protect the lives of their soldiers at the expense of winning.

          However there remains every reason to think the US could make different decisions and win wars in the middle east alone.

          1. mittensc · · focus · HN ↗
            Right now the US looks impotent vs Iran.
            1. bluGill · · focus · HN ↗
              So? My comment was never about what things look like, it is about reality.
              1. mittensc · · focus · HN ↗
                Reality: US is impotent against iran closing the straight
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