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1. andsoitis · 1790687134 · focus · HN ↗

   The more countries trade with each other and depend on each other, the better things are for peace and human advancement.

   The zero-sum mindset that's de rigueur at the moment needs to die soon or the world that we'll inhabit is gonna suck.

   1. adrianmsmith · 1790691929 · focus · HN ↗

      > The more countries trade with each other and depend on each other, the better things are for peace

      I previously thought the same, with Europe and Russia doing lots of trade e.g. Germany buying lots of gas from Russia, and many western companies being present in Russia. It seems obviously true.

      But Russia still started a war anyway, so I guess it's not actually true.

      1. utopiah · 1790693136 · focus · HN ↗

         I think it's true but only in equitable societies.

         Putin or Trump are totally isolated from economical and political consequences so they have no problem severing ties. If there are genuine co-dependencies, including for the leaders, they it's much harder to break peace.

         I imagine the ideological aspect is the deeper motivation but it only matters with the right circumstances.

         1. nirui · 1790702484 · focus · HN ↗

            This don't make things better through.

            Putin and Trump sits in the opposite side of the political spectrum, so as the country they lead, and yet they still managed to archive something similar.

            It's not that hard to manage the country to a point where nothing in the country, even law, can hurt it's leader anymore. Sometime a bit of time and patient is all it takes.

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