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1. jwally · 1790684914 · focus · HN ↗

   I was thinking about this with flock cameras the other day...what's our actual ROI? Was the world horrible before and these initiatives are going to close a monster crime gap or is this just a giant fishing expedition ... just because?

   1. themaninthedark · 1790688029 · focus · HN ↗

      Not for fishing, it's a control system.

      Think back to the capital riots/insurrection/what-ever you want to call it; they used similar systems to identify and arrest those participants. Heavily publicize how many people and who; doesn't matter if you a 63yo grandmom or a pastor, we will find you and prosecute. Showing that you are prosecuting the "normal" people is part of it, show that and you make them less likely to show up to the next thing, less likely to provide support.

      The Capital has many cameras owned by the feds, so they could easily do that. Chicago, Atlanta, LA not so much. When anti-ICE action takes place with protestors in black block, going under umbrellas, makes it hard to identify and prove. With strategically placed cameras, you can see what cars came in the area. You get statistical data that shows if they are there normally there. Get enough abnormality and you get enough for a search warrant.

      1. tantalor · 1790691925 · focus · HN ↗

         Good?

         1. datsci_est_2015 · 1790705308 · focus · HN ↗

            Until it’s your civil liberties being infringed upon and you have no recourse against the faceless authoritarian bureaucracy propped up by a fallible surveillance system owned and operated by racists and bigots.

            Edit: we’ll be arguing about “nothing to hide, nothing to fear” for the rest of time, won’t we.

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