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500k facial scans at UK stations yield no arrests, 1 false positive

518 points · 305 comments · ilamont

  1. cyanydeez · · focus · HN ↗
    "Most everyone you meet is not a criminal"

    Uncomfortable facts certain bigots dont want to understand.

    1. PorciiVorbesc · · focus · HN ↗
      Yeah but from the PoV of the government everyone you meet could be a future criminal. They could have hateful thoughts towards the INGSOC party or towards Big Brother. They could even be allies of Emmanuel Goldstein. How else do you expect the government to keep you safe from such criminals, brother?
      1. bostik · · focus · HN ↗
        To be fair, if you work in the UK government then everyone you meet on a daily basis is in high likelyhood a criminal.

        If they're not laundering money, trafficking people or avoiding taxes, they're likely a visitor who has come to commit bribery. Oh sorry, "lobbying".

    2. Sharlin · · focus · HN ↗
      "If most everyone you meet is not a criminal, the definition of 'criminal' is not yet sufficiently comprehensive."

      Edit: added scare quotes because it's difficult to be sarcastic on the internet these days.

      1. ChrisRR · · focus · HN ↗
        You think the definition of criminal is wrong unless the majority of people are defined as criminals?
        1. Sharlin · · focus · HN ↗
          I guess I should've included a sarcasm warning. But that's certainly a view a certain type of powerful people seem to hold. Richelieu's famous (probably apocryphal) quote and all that.
    3. motbus3 · · focus · HN ↗
      Tech bros pushed us to believe that disagreeing and arguing instead of voting is the right way.

      So we are now distracted while they reshape the world with hunger and death

      1. philipallstar · · focus · HN ↗
        > Tech bros pushed us to believe that disagreeing and arguing instead of voting is the right way.

        > So we are now distracted while they reshape the world with hunger and death

        How constrained must one's thinking be to think like this? There are massive actual issues, and they're not your hated group of choice's fault.

        1. infinitezest · · focus · HN ↗
          Ah, the famed "Nuh-Uh" defense. The fact is, Tech companies and the bros that head them have all of the money, all of the connections, and all of the information. Those of us not on that side of the equation do not. They may not be the initial cause of so many problems but they certainly have accelerated and deepened a great many of them in their race to extract (somehow) even more wealth from the societies that host them. We aren't nearly angry enough at them IMO.
          1. philipallstar · · focus · HN ↗
            > Ah, the famed "Nuh-Uh" defense.

            That's all you need for baseless claims.

            1. motbus3 · · focus · HN ↗
              Not sure why people think those folks are sitting on the same table as the orange man
          2. noduerme · · focus · HN ↗
            Are you talking about tech companies specifically? Or just all large companies?

            Some companies are purely extractive (oil, gas and mining companies, for example), but even those do create jobs and put money in people's pockets. Other companies invent things which have wide economic benefits, like new vaccines or cancer treatments. Tech companies can fall into any of these categories. Or are you only talking about social media companies?

      2. vovavili · · focus · HN ↗
        Why are you on a YCombinator subdomain if this represents your beliefs?
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