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Why the Bronze Age Collapsed

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  1. cobbzilla · · focus · HN ↗
    Eric Cline makes a good case that the Bronze Age empires were organized around a “palace economy”, where only certain people (royals & their pals) were even allowed to trade. In some places the sovereign literally owned all the land and people on it.

    One can imagine that a series of bad seasons, natural disasters, invasions & other stressors would open a window for revolt.

    Yes tin was a factor, yes the “Sea Peoples” were a factor. But you don’t get the wholesale overthrow of so many empires without the common people being at least somewhat welcoming of the invaders (when not happily assisting them!) in throwing off centuries of elite oppression.

    1. brnt · · focus · HN ↗
      > In some places the sovereign literally owned all the land and people on it.

      Russia was like this till 1861! And arguably practically for much longer so, perhaps still.

      1. otabdeveloper4 · · focus · HN ↗
        Well, so was the USA. Seems like wealth inequality is not such a big deal in the grand scheme of things.
        1. brnt · · focus · HN ↗
          Ah, OG whataboutism!
          1. otabdeveloper4 · · focus · HN ↗
            > whataboutism

            Er, no. 19th century USA was a pretty advanced (technologically and culturally) civilization and yet with an extremely backward system of feudalism even by bronze age standards.

            Seems political progress is not so important after all.

            1. brnt · · focus · HN ↗
              Er, yes, if your entire defense is pointing at someone else.
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