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Why the Bronze Age Collapsed

412 points · 306 comments · AnodicElegy

  1. randomImmigrant · · focus · HN ↗
    Well, doesn’t the Harappan civilization make a mess out of all this? Tin was nearby, and there’s evidence of bronze artifacts in all kinds of houses across the cities, and in general less evidence of hierarchical power, and certainly nothing like the concentration you see in other Bronze Age civilizations. We don’t have the civilization surviving as is to the Iron Age, because it depopulated before iron smelting became common. But it’s odd to make the claim bronze had to lead to stratified societies. Clearly, not always.
    1. GMoromisato · · focus · HN ↗
      The claim (as I understand it) is that power was centralized because tin was rare--i.e., had to be imported via sophisticated trade routes, which presumably could be controlled by the state.

      In an area where tin is abundant, individuals could easily forge their own bronze weapons, thus making it harder for the state to have a monopoly on high-tech weapons.

      So I think the Harappan actually reinforce the theory.

      1. The_Blade · · focus · HN ↗
        > which presumably could be controlled by the state.

        yes, kiln-roasted Linear B in Mycenaean palaces... built on a giant fault line (literally as well as figuratively)

        Civ VII 2.0 should bring back Sid's palaces in monolith data centers like The Machine / Samaritan (note: i am only halfway through season 4)

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