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Why the Bronze Age Collapsed

412 points · 306 comments · AnodicElegy

  1. ericmay · · focus · HN ↗
    Fun article. I think that there is a lot of interesting information here that would help explain what we saw with the Bronze Age Collapse, though I would submit that this is just another of the multiple factors that led to the collapse. Maybe a drought occurs, folks turn to iron weapons, and then take over another town or village for their resources, and so on.

    This could lead to supply chain collapses and such. Maybe just general destabilization and raids and such sort of collapsed the larger empires. But at the same time, those larger empires would also have had access to iron, so why couldn't they by matter of numerical superiority, access to greater resources, tactics and military organization, and more simply, overwhelm smaller armies or bands utilizing the same technology and restore order or at least defend themselves?

    I just started reading Conrad Black's historical series and in the Egyptian chapter and also the Assyria/Babylonia chapter he references the historical accounts where time and time again Egyptian forces led by the pharaoh would march into the broader Middle East to restore order. Why couldn't they continue to do that?

    1. noncoml · · focus · HN ↗
      Because pure iron, with no carbonization, is useless as a material for tools or weapons.

      Carbonization was invented/discovered after the Bronze Age collapse, slowly over hundreds of years, exactly because they didn’t have access to bronze anymore.

      1. ericmay · · focus · HN ↗
        Are you suggesting that you disagree with the author's thesis and that iron wasn't a contributing factor or the major one?
        1. jeltz · · focus · HN ↗
          Yeah, the timeline just does not make sense. It makes more sense the other way round that the collapse made iron more appealing.
        2. noncoml · · focus · HN ↗
          Yes. Iron wasn’t a contributing factor.

          Iron was already known to civilization during Bronze Age, but they didn’t know how to make it hard. Hence Bronze was preferred.

          After, and because, of the Bronze Age collapse they started funding out how to make iron useful.

          Think about it, why did the humans in Americas never went through Iron Age? Because they never had a Bronze Age collapse.

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