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1. j4k0bfr · 1790679465 · focus · HN ↗

   This is a bit surprising to me, considering how much AI companies love to hoard data. Especially since some of these ad companies are direct competitors!

   My best guess is that these ad mechanisms are a bit rushed and/or that investor demands for profitability are fighting against company self-interest.

   Edit: I guess some data will always need to be leaked for AI chat ads to be most effective. But I imagine AI companies would rather deliver the targeted ads themselves rather than letting competitors do it for them. It would be scary to see AI companies become ad companies too (instead of just hosting them).

   1. mrweasel · 1790680681 · focus · HN ↗

      So I only read the abstract, but the question is if the data is leaked, by accident, or if it's deliberately provided. My guess is that we're talking about the first scenario, and that this is an accident.

      If that's the case, then I'm not surprised at all. Actually I also wouldn't be surprised if they sold the data, but that's a different story. If we look at OpenAI for instance, they have on multiple occasion shown that they do not have the operational experience or resources to run their services in a safe and secure manor, nor do they frankly have an impressive up reliability (in terms of operational stability).

      I'd support your guess that all of this is rushed in an attempt to push for profitabilitet/growth.

      1. duskdozer · 1790681711 · focus · HN ↗

         Well, some data is deliberately provided at least. It's not a situation of other apps managing to grab the data like the facebook-localhost exploit

         >The most prevalent third-party services included in CSP headers belong to Google Tag Manager (googletagmanager.com), Google Analytics (google-analytics.com), and Google Ads (googleadservices.com and doubleclick.net). Yet, as Table 8 shows, CSP policies commonly include other prominent actors in the advertising industry, such as TikTok and Meta.

      2. kjs3 · 1790685290 · focus · HN ↗

         the question is if the data is leaked, by accident, or if it's deliberately provided. My guess is that we're talking about the first scenario, and that this is an accident.

         Read the T&Cs. If there's even the tiniest bit of "we might provide your data to third parties for the purposes of...", it's not an accident. Virtually all the AI company T&Cs I've looked at had weasel words that open that door, because it's obvious to anyone paying attention that cramming ads into AI products is the next frontier in AI revenue streams.

      3. dgellow · 1790690698 · focus · HN ↗

         I don’t think it matters much if it is intentional or not, no? In both cases it’s a breach of privacy that should be punished. Though I myself do not believe they are selling, I don’t think they reached that level of sophistication yet, they seem to be way too hacky for that type of scheme. But that will for sure come later on

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