One thing that people for some reason don't like to voice out loud: America won this way. Maybe it has become politically incorrect to even voice anything positive at all, like doomerism grasped all sides of society?
Baath party is destroyed and no longer exists, political and underlying ethnic groups that propped it up are deeply marginalised and sidelined, political regime in place in Iraq is exactly the one America wanted to have there, and it WORKS: they have regular competitive elections (in the strictest sense of it: before the elections, no one can predict results in advance) and a well-functioning civil society where people can advocate for, or protest against things without it devolving to tribalism (not "Shia vs Sunni" riots or similar). Iraq as it currently is, is created by America and stands firmly on its feet.
But in the end of the day, it was a victory too? Putin got his ass kicked, Assad reduced to playing xbox on Moscow dacha, pro-American and pro-Israeil forces are in charge in Syria.
But does it really matter? We are speaking about American and broader Western interests. If more Shia kill more Sunni and they in turn kill more Alawites or whoever, why do we need to be concerned?
Syria: because of threat Assad presented to the free world in general but especially to Israel in particular, both directly, and by allowing Iran to transport weapons to Hezbollah in Lebanon. Neither is the case anymore: Israel is safe from that direction.
Iraq: back back in the day, US really depended on oil coming from the Middle East. This problem was eventually resolved by fracking.
There it is. Some lives matter and some don't.
Tell me, if we don't care about Shia killing Sunnis, and we definitely don't care about Jews killing Muslims... why should we care about Muslims killing Jews? I'm Christian.
"In September 2014, the United States began to undertake efforts to establish a global coalition with the declared aim of countering the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant.[26] Since September 2014, the U.S. had conducted military operations in Syria, primarily against ISIL forces as part of Operation Inherent Resolve."
2021 elections: The 2021 Iraqi parliamentary election resulted in violent protests in Baghdad as well as a political crisis of eleven months
<<a href="https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/6/12/iraqi-mps-from-firebrand-cleric-moqtada-sadrs-bloc-resign" rel="nofollow">https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/6/12/iraqi-mps-from-fire...>
2025 elections: Briefing: Iran media call Iraq election result victory for 'Resistance'
<<a href="https://monitoring.bbc.co.uk/product/b0004xgt" rel="nofollow">https://monitoring.bbc.co.uk/product/b0004xgt>
Amnesty International Report on human rights in 2025
<<a href="https://www.amnesty.org/en/location/middle-east-and-north-africa/middle-east/iraq/report-iraq/" rel="nofollow">https://www.amnesty.org/en/location/middle-east-and-north-af...>
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Baath party is destroyed and no longer exists, political and underlying ethnic groups that propped it up are deeply marginalised and sidelined, political regime in place in Iraq is exactly the one America wanted to have there, and it WORKS: they have regular competitive elections (in the strictest sense of it: before the elections, no one can predict results in advance) and a well-functioning civil society where people can advocate for, or protest against things without it devolving to tribalism (not "Shia vs Sunni" riots or similar). Iraq as it currently is, is created by America and stands firmly on its feet.
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Iraq: back back in the day, US really depended on oil coming from the Middle East. This problem was eventually resolved by fracking.
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Tell me, if we don't care about Shia killing Sunnis, and we definitely don't care about Jews killing Muslims... why should we care about Muslims killing Jews? I'm Christian.
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"In September 2014, the United States began to undertake efforts to establish a global coalition with the declared aim of countering the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant.[26] Since September 2014, the U.S. had conducted military operations in Syria, primarily against ISIL forces as part of Operation Inherent Resolve."
More:
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Inherent_Resolve" rel="nofollow">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Inherent_Resolve
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2025 elections: Briefing: Iran media call Iraq election result victory for 'Resistance' <<a href="https://monitoring.bbc.co.uk/product/b0004xgt" rel="nofollow">https://monitoring.bbc.co.uk/product/b0004xgt>
Amnesty International Report on human rights in 2025 <<a href="https://www.amnesty.org/en/location/middle-east-and-north-africa/middle-east/iraq/report-iraq/" rel="nofollow">https://www.amnesty.org/en/location/middle-east-and-north-af...>
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