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1. forshaper · 1790632836 · focus · HN ↗

   Axon and Motorola must be pretty satisfied with all this.

   1. paimapi · 1790633352 · focus · HN ↗

      for what it's worth, the DeFlock maps also include Axon/Motorola cams. they pick up my city's custom implementation too so the anti-surveillance movement is really benefiting from this Flock-focused hate

      1. forshaper · 1790635756 · focus · HN ↗

         worth something! I wasn't aware that they picked those up.

         1. paimapi · 1790696513 · focus · HN ↗

            yep! most of the older hacktivist types who had initially set it up are keenly aware that it's not just Flock doing surveillance. I think it's the newer anti-Flock folks from groups like 50501 that are maybe a bit too obsessed and don't see it as an extension of state hegemony. that said, Flocks expansion and growth is multiple times that of Axon/Motorola in this space -they really opened the can of worms that's standalone, non-grid-powered CCTV and now all the companies are pursuing the tech

            EFF&#x27;s Atlas of Surveillance also does a really great job keeping track of contracts with these companies: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.atlasofsurveillance.org&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.atlasofsurveillance.org&#x2F;

            if you feel up for it, filing some ORRs according to your local statute for these contracts and sending them to the EFF is a great way of getting involved on a small scale. MuckRock has an entire tool for it that someone on HN pointed me to a few days ago (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.muckrock.com&#x2F;foi&#x2F;create&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.muckrock.com&#x2F;foi&#x2F;create&#x2F;) and I&#x27;m going to spend an evening or so sending out some requests :)

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