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1. john_strinlai · 1790784441 · focus · HN ↗

   >Microsoft had editorial control over this post, cutting sections and figures and reshaping how the impact is described before publication.

   that is... not great. shame on microsoft.

   its actions like that which shed light on why we get the nighmare eclipses of the world. pressuring a kid into handing over full editorial control of a disclosure is gross.

   1. rkagerer · 1790785640 · focus · HN ↗

      Love to hear more on the motivation for agreeing to this.

      e.g. The $5000? Amnesty from being sued?

      1. srdjanr · 1790786121 · focus · HN ↗

         Also he's 16. I'd definitely be less willing to push back (especially on something like this) at his age

         1. p-e-w · 1790790526 · focus · HN ↗

            Of course not. You don’t push back on something like that. You hire a lawyer and let them do the pushing for you. If you contact the right NGO, they might even give you one for free.

            There’s no way I’d sign any agreement with a company like Microsoft regarding an issue like that without a lawyer. I’d rather not disclose at all if those were the only options.

            1. saghm · 1790791260 · focus · HN ↗

               I don't know about you, but when I was 16, I never hired a lawyer, and none of the other 16 year olds I knew had either

               1. snapplebobapple · 1790791679 · focus · HN ↗

                  I've seen hackers. Even if you do it right you're still going to get banned from the internet till you are 18 and dating Angelina Jolie is not the draw it was 20 years ago....

                  1. stronglikedan · 1790796909 · focus · HN ↗

                     > dating Angelina Jolie is not the draw it was 20 years ago....

                     not not either. where do I sign up?

                  2. eecc · 1790800314 · focus · HN ↗

                     She’s glorious in the movie, though she does play the part of an extremely high maintenance woman uncannily well…
                  3. dfxm12 · 1790800848 · focus · HN ↗

                     There are so many great one liners in that move. An underrated one is when Dade's mom opens the door, sees Acid Burn and says "now I see what all the fuss is about".
            2. patmorgan23 · 1790803380 · focus · HN ↗

               I mean when you're sixteen, you can sign a legally binding contract (might depend on the jurisdiction). Usually you have to be above the age of majority (18) or be emancipated before you can enter into a binding contract.
         2. 0x1ch · 1790794686 · focus · HN ↗

            At that age in the mid 2000s, I would be foaming at the mouth to tell a FANG company to eat dirt over something like a disclosure + unpaid bounty. But if he got the money and didn't negotiate... You live and you learn.

            1. xeromal · 1790806673 · focus · HN ↗

               iamverybadass

               1. 0x1ch · 1790810444 · focus · HN ↗

                  Well yeah. Why else would you tell off a massive company in the FANG circle as a budding security researcher in their teens.

                  1. drfloyd51 · 1790810997 · focus · HN ↗

                     A good move is to negotiate in good faith. You show you can’t be pushed around and you are able to be civil. And most importantly, you know your worth.
                  2. [deleted] · 1790831708 · focus · HN ↗

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