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Jeff – Jev-compatible 0.8B decision models, trained at home, ~30 ms

575 points · 225 comments · firelex

  1. adrithmetiqa · · focus · HN ↗
    Forgive my lack of understanding but how long before Jev type functionality is just built straight into all frontier models?
    1. tbeseda · · focus · HN ↗
      If I had to guess, it's already built and is just waiting on Product's/Marketing's desk. How do you position this without looking like your roadmap is being determined by newcomers? Probably don't want to adopt the same verbiage+acronyms - but also can't be seen to be just sherlocking features.
      1. seizethecheese · · focus · HN ↗
        I think Apple has demonstrated that shipping second has essentially no negative impact if your product is seen as higher quality.
        1. bigyabai · · focus · HN ↗
          I think Nvidia has demonstrated that shipping first is a multi-trillion dollar opportunity if you don't shy away from a challenge.
          1. lucideer · · focus · HN ↗
            I think it depends on the model: Nvidia ship products with APIs, apple/jev/etc. ship end user products. The former is much more subject to lock-in, increasing the value of early market adoption because there's a 3P Nvidia ecosystem sprung up in response. Apple/jev/etc. do have APIs & corresponding 3P ecosystems but those are usually a smaller component of market capture than direct product end users, so the space ends up more competitive.
            1. 8note · · focus · HN ↗
              jev ships an api, does it not?
              1. lucideer · · focus · HN ↗
                yup. I said that in my comment...
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