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Jeff – Jev-compatible 0.8B decision models, trained at home, ~30 ms

575 points · 225 comments · firelex

  1. adrithmetiqa · · focus · HN ↗
    Forgive my lack of understanding but how long before Jev type functionality is just built straight into all frontier models?
    1. tbeseda · · focus · HN ↗
      If I had to guess, it's already built and is just waiting on Product's/Marketing's desk. How do you position this without looking like your roadmap is being determined by newcomers? Probably don't want to adopt the same verbiage+acronyms - but also can't be seen to be just sherlocking features.
      1. seizethecheese · · focus · HN ↗
        I think Apple has demonstrated that shipping second has essentially no negative impact if your product is seen as higher quality.
        1. bigyabai · · focus · HN ↗
          I think Nvidia has demonstrated that shipping first is a multi-trillion dollar opportunity if you don't shy away from a challenge.
          1. AndrewKemendo · · focus · HN ↗
            NVIDIA literally hired all of the 3DFX team and patents after they already proved the graphics accelleration hardware market was massive with the Voodoo card line

            In fact NVIDIA wasn't even a close competitor to 3DFX in the graphics card game at that point

            1. bigyabai · · focus · HN ↗
              It panned out great. 3DFX filed for bankruptcy less than 18 months later, and Nvidia could pivot from designing raster chips to considering CUDA's architecture.

              It's not like 3DFX was the first GPU vendor. Nvidia saw the opportunity to be the first true GPGPU vendor, and they beat their competitors.

              1. trollbridge · · focus · HN ↗
                IBM shipped the first PC GPU (the Image Adapter/A, 1989) following on the first PC 2D accelerator (the 8514/A, 1987). There was zero benefit to being first. 3dfx had the first mass market, cheap GPU in 1996.

                ATI (AMD) in 1989 copied the unpatentable parts of the 8514/A, improved it, and went on to dominate 2D accelerators.

                nVidia’s first 3D card was a complete flop. They did not achieve success for years.

                Nvidia is in the right place at the right time.

                1. bigyabai · · focus · HN ↗
                  We're talking about GPGPU products, not raster GPUs. I cleared that up pretty well in my last comment.
                  1. trollbridge · · focus · HN ↗
                    The IA/A was general purpose.
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