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1. adrithmetiqa · 1790632786 · focus · HN ↗

   Forgive my lack of understanding but how long before Jev type functionality is just built straight into all frontier models?

   1. tbeseda · 1790633333 · focus · HN ↗

      If I had to guess, it's already built and is just waiting on Product's/Marketing's desk. How do you position this without looking like your roadmap is being determined by newcomers? Probably don't want to adopt the same verbiage+acronyms - but also can't be seen to be just sherlocking features.

      1. seizethecheese · 1790633838 · focus · HN ↗

         I think Apple has demonstrated that shipping second has essentially no negative impact if your product is seen as higher quality.

         1. bigyabai · 1790634141 · focus · HN ↗

            I think Nvidia has demonstrated that shipping first is a multi-trillion dollar opportunity if you don't shy away from a challenge.

            1. PunchyHamster · 1790641796 · focus · HN ↗

               It's more due to ineptitude of competition. If AMD shipped second, but better product it would be another thing but it is still a bit of a mess of an ecosystem on AMD side

               1. bigyabai · 1790646366 · focus · HN ↗

                  It's not AMD's responsibility to dethrone Nvidia any more than it is Apple's. AMD sells CDNA, but the momentum is with CUDA and Khronos can't get anyone to sit at the same table anymore.

                  1. hgoel · 1790651433 · focus · HN ↗

                     It isn't their responsibility, but it doesn't make sense to argue that being first got NVIDIA a multitrillion dollar market if the others aren't even trying to compete. There is no "first" if it's really just "only one even trying".

                     The momentum is with CUDA because CUDA is the most broadly usable one. Especially with AI-driven optimization loops and similar APIs, competitors can more easily pick up momentum, if they'd actually try.

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