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California farmers are struggling to sell grapes as demand for wine drops

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  1. alexandre_m · · focus · HN ↗
    > while young people are drinking less alcohol due to health and financial concerns

    My observation is that gen-z spends less time socializing in real life, and drinking remains a social habit for the most part at a younger age. While they drink less, cannabis, vaping and psychedelics are on the rise.

    It's a nice claim to say they are more responsible, but it tells an incomplete story.

    1. Reptur · · focus · HN ↗
      My guess people are more stressed. Gallup has Gen z drinking more spirits. Preferred drink Ages 18–34 Liquor &#x2F; Spirits 38%, Beer 36%, Wine 24% <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.gallup.com&#x2F;poll&#x2F;713534&#x2F;americans-drinking-remains-record-low.aspx" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.gallup.com&#x2F;poll&#x2F;713534&#x2F;americans-drinking-remai...
      1. noisy_boy · · focus · HN ↗
        Uneducated guess: wine is seen as more of an &quot;older people&#x27;s&quot; drink making it uncool for gen-Z?
        1. klardotsh · · focus · HN ↗
          Or it&#x27;s just bang-for-buck. If a bottle of vodka can be had for anywhere even vaguely in the ballpark of a bottle of wine (and at the grocery store scale, they often are: say, $15-20 for the wine and $20-30 for the vodka), then vodka (and maybe mixers) is gonna deliver a whole lot more intoxication per dollar.

          I guess I just wrote a much longer variation of &quot;candy is dandy, but liquor is quicker&quot;, eh?

          (this is not drinking advice, folks: you&#x27;ll do plenty more damage plenty faster with liquor, too)

          1. TeMPOraL · · focus · HN ↗
            Probably, yeah. N=1 but that&#x27;s what I remember from my university years. Wines were for dating; cheap beers and vodka with cola or juices was for general socializing.
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