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1. jimmyjazz14 · 1790632038 · focus · HN ↗

   > We must move past vague discussions of “AI” and instead isolate the specific types of systems that are creating problems.

   This is absolutely correct and its surprising how rarely you see commenters in the media push to go into the specifics on this. AI is just matrix math and its what you connect that math to that matters, we should talk a little more about what we are willing to connect AI to and little less about how scary or capable the models appear.

   1. yodsanklai · 1790656534 · focus · HN ↗

      A point that Yann LeCun has been making for a while is that it's meaningless to regulate AI, but we want to regulate applications. For instance, you don't want autonomous vehicles to hit people, whether they use AI or not. In practice, most applications of AI are already regulated.

      1. thaumasiotes · 1790662809 · focus · HN ↗

         > For instance, you don't want autonomous vehicles to hit people, whether they use AI or not.

         What would it mean for a vehicle to be "autonomous", but to "not use AI"?

         1. ehe78qhe · 1790662903 · focus · HN ↗

            Trains are often highly automated without AI, for example. Aircraft are often automated for most of their flight without AI.

            1. throwawayffffas · 1790673326 · focus · HN ↗

               Autopilots perceive the environment, reason, plan and execute actions. Autopilots are AI.

               1. ehe78qhe · 1790674168 · focus · HN ↗

                  Most autopilots don't involve reasoning and planning. In fact, autopilots predate digital computers. The first ones were developed prior to WW1.

                  If a basic heading hold PID loop is AI so is a thermostat from 1990. At which point the word is so meaningless it is obviously a useless definition.

                  1. throwawayffffas · 1790675898 · focus · HN ↗

                     Ofcourse they do reasoning and planning, it's entirely encoded in software ofcourse, but modern autopilots don't just hold a course, they perform maneuvers and follow waypoints the process of turning the objective turn 35 degrees to actuator inputs is reasoning and planning.

                     AI is not magic it's software, the definition is far from pointless, google maps giving you a route to your destination is AI.

                     1. dminik · 1790678230 · focus · HN ↗

                        My recipe book has 300 AIs and all are delicious. Google Maps running A* or whatever is obviously not AI. Come on.

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