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It's Time to Investigate the AI Labs

629 points · 277 comments · ibobev

  1. jimmyjazz14 · · focus · HN ↗
    > We must move past vague discussions of “AI” and instead isolate the specific types of systems that are creating problems.

    This is absolutely correct and its surprising how rarely you see commenters in the media push to go into the specifics on this. AI is just matrix math and its what you connect that math to that matters, we should talk a little more about what we are willing to connect AI to and little less about how scary or capable the models appear.

    1. yodsanklai · · focus · HN ↗
      A point that Yann LeCun has been making for a while is that it's meaningless to regulate AI, but we want to regulate applications. For instance, you don't want autonomous vehicles to hit people, whether they use AI or not. In practice, most applications of AI are already regulated.
      1. thaumasiotes · · focus · HN ↗
        > For instance, you don't want autonomous vehicles to hit people, whether they use AI or not.

        What would it mean for a vehicle to be "autonomous", but to "not use AI"?

        1. ehe78qhe · · focus · HN ↗
          Trains are often highly automated without AI, for example. Aircraft are often automated for most of their flight without AI.
          1. thaumasiotes · · focus · HN ↗
            > Aircraft are often automated for most of their flight without AI.

            What do you mean? I can just as easily say that Claude Code operates "without AI". It would make about as much sense.

            1. KaiserPro · · focus · HN ↗
              It means you are out here autonomously dropping logical fallacies.

              Autopilots are autonomous, without AI. lane following and collision avoidance in most cars, don't use "AI" they use classic computer vision and good old fashioned radar.

              The difference here is that claude code fails to perform what it's intended to do without a model attached, a plane/car doesn't.

              1. LtWorf · · focus · HN ↗
                Computer vision is not AI? This is complete news to me.
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