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It's Time to Investigate the AI Labs

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  1. jimmyjazz14 · · focus · HN ↗
    > We must move past vague discussions of “AI” and instead isolate the specific types of systems that are creating problems.

    This is absolutely correct and its surprising how rarely you see commenters in the media push to go into the specifics on this. AI is just matrix math and its what you connect that math to that matters, we should talk a little more about what we are willing to connect AI to and little less about how scary or capable the models appear.

    1. throwitaway222 · · focus · HN ↗
      But you can't stop someone from connecting AI to something at this point, so your point is moot.
      1. pclowes · · focus · HN ↗
        Yes you can, the US could shut down the entire internet if it wanted.

        While that is extreme, if there is a high p(doom) it is also reasonable.

        We can absolutely do things to control AI and fine or imprison those who can’t control theirs. This is not some inevitable outcome.

        We could vaporize these companies tomorrow if we wanted.

        1. fauchletenerum · · focus · HN ↗
          > Yes you can, the US could shut down the entire internet if it wanted.

          No, they can't. The rest of the world would just route around the US with BGP. All of the US infrastructure/service providers would be down, so a ton of things would break, but the Internet would not be "shut down". The US government also no longer has authority over the DNS root servers. So unless you're referring to thermonuclear war or some similar scenario then the US does not have this capability.

          1. adamsb6 · · focus · HN ↗
            The Internet is more hub and spoke than I think many people would like to think.

            For example, there’s one building in Seattle that would cause region-wide problems if it was knocked offline.

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