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It's Time to Investigate the AI Labs

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  1. jimmyjazz14 · · focus · HN ↗
    > We must move past vague discussions of “AI” and instead isolate the specific types of systems that are creating problems.

    This is absolutely correct and its surprising how rarely you see commenters in the media push to go into the specifics on this. AI is just matrix math and its what you connect that math to that matters, we should talk a little more about what we are willing to connect AI to and little less about how scary or capable the models appear.

    1. throwitaway222 · · focus · HN ↗
      But you can't stop someone from connecting AI to something at this point, so your point is moot.
      1. egypturnash · · focus · HN ↗
        You could say it's illegal to connect AI to something, with heavy penalties if you're caught doing it anyway.

        You could say that the human who hooked up an AI that did something that's already illegal is liable for the AI's actions. You could say that setting up an AI to do something illegal results in, ooh, an automatic multiplier of 10x on whatever the penalty for its illegal actions are.

        1. throwitaway222 · · focus · HN ↗
          There is no political willpower to do that. We have literally reached endgame.
          1. goatlover · · focus · HN ↗
            You mean mo political willpower form the current US administration and Congress. I'm not sure what "endgame" is supposed to mean. There are future elections, including the US midterms just weeks away.
            1. trinsic2 · · focus · HN ↗
              I'm sorry the parent is right. There is no policital will power to do anything about this from either side. Criminality is being allowed on both sides of the spectrum. Institutionalists are on the side of criminality. It keeps them in power
              1. reasonableklout · · focus · HN ↗
                I get the cynicism but this actually feels like a special moment in politics right now. There is a groundswell of bipartisan support for AI regulation [1] and a backlash against data centers which is a symptom of anger against the industry. It is enough for a Senate probe to be opened against OpenAI [2] and pushback against Trump's support for data centers on his own social media platform [3].

                [1]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.foxnews.com&#x2F;politics&#x2F;fox-news-poll-voters-see-ai-regulation-urgent-rank-safeguards-ahead-innovation" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.foxnews.com&#x2F;politics&#x2F;fox-news-poll-voters-see-ai...

                [2]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.axios.com&#x2F;2026&#x2F;09&#x2F;10&#x2F;openai-hugging-face-senate-investigation-hawley" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.axios.com&#x2F;2026&#x2F;09&#x2F;10&#x2F;openai-hugging-face-senate-...

                [3]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nytimes.com&#x2F;2026&#x2F;09&#x2F;15&#x2F;us&#x2F;politics&#x2F;trump-truth-social-ai-data-centers.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nytimes.com&#x2F;2026&#x2F;09&#x2F;15&#x2F;us&#x2F;politics&#x2F;trump-truth-s...

                1. trinsic2 · · focus · HN ↗
                  Im not much on communism because I think it can go horribly wrong in the other direction but this guy has a point about populism[0].

                  We keep falling for the same tricks, over and over again. There is no possibility in the current structure of government for this to be a win for the people. For anything to work, we need a structural change in the entire system.

                  [0] Video: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=q2XxgKM2CM0&amp;pp=ygULbm9uIGNvbXBldGU%3D" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=q2XxgKM2CM0&amp;pp=ygULbm9uIGNvb...

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