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Burning Man death rates – A short lesson in statistics

179 points · 243 comments · viraj_shah

  1. michael1999 · · focus · HN ↗
    Some of this is selection bias, but lots of this is active work by the organizers.

    Burning Man has slowly re-created the regulatory state in response to the standard pressures of civilization. To their credit, this has often been in response to near-misses, but sometimes in response to fatalities. It started with sanitation (potties), and banning guns/explosives. You can have 100 people shooting guns at a party in the desert without sanitation and muddle through. At 10k, you are building a cholera-mad-max experiment. A car running over a sleeping person prompted a designated road network. And then they adopted zoning, with hush-ville and the large sound installation ends. All supported by the ranger team preventing injury every day. Civilization is work.

    1. slopinthebag · · focus · HN ↗
      proof you don't really need a government or state in order to have rules and order. this seems like a win for anarchism and a point against statism.
      1. rightnutwingjob · · focus · HN ↗
        No it’s not.

        It’s proof of the opposite of your conjecture.

        Anarchy always rapidly evolves in to government.

        Whoever, or whichever group, performs the making, administering, and enforcement of rules, is the government.

        1. slopinthebag · · focus · HN ↗
          the group we're talking about does not have the power to enforce rules

          but regardless, if you want to call the state in anarchism where people collectively form together to create rules and order "government", be my guest

          1. rightnutwingjob · · focus · HN ↗
            You think humans are ants.

            You’re wrong.

            When you go out in to the world you’re learn that for yourself.

            Amy group of humans who think they can run things ”collectively” is always immediately over run by those who know they can’t.

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