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Burning Man death rates – A short lesson in statistics

179 points · 243 comments · viraj_shah

  1. Aurornis · · focus · HN ↗
    Looking at population-level statistics, even adjusted for age, is useless. Going to burning man requires a level of health, energy, free time (not dealing with health issues), and freedom from chronic illnesses that make traveling to a desert a bad idea.

    Most people at high risk of random death are filtered out before they arrive.

    There are so many better comparisons that could have been chosen. Comparing Burning Man to outdoor music festivals would be so much more accurate.

    1. js2 · · focus · HN ↗
      The post admits this, first in the summary: "However, Burning Man’s near zero death rate over its existence is abnormal, and likely due to selection bias of healthier attendees and other confounding demographic factors".

      Then again in the final sentence: "The more likely explanation for the remaining gap is something no demographic slicing can capture. Burning Man selects for healthier people who are willing and able to spend a week in the desert heat, regardless of their age, race, or income bracket."

      1. fhn · · focus · HN ↗
        so the comparison is pointless by their own admission
        1. TheCoelacanth · · focus · HN ↗
          It's not pointless to figure some things out just because you can't figure everything out.
        2. gwern · · focus · HN ↗
          No, it's an upper bound, which is quite useful. And the more adjustments and demographic covariates you make, the better your bound gets.
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