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  1. MisterMunchkin · · focus · HN ↗
    It costs 20x more than the Chinese models I use. I just don’t need them anymore. Sure I’d use them if forced to for a job, but I don’t pay them outside of that anymore.

    And my job won’t even pay for Claude now because it’s so ruinously expensive.

    1. yipinwong · · focus · HN ↗
      Say that to Luna's face. Ya all bringing up this not-so-cheap-nowadays chinese models and not that more intelligent than luna and bringing "cost" as the only factor.
      1. cromka · · focus · HN ↗
        Not even GPT6 Sol cannot match DeepSeek 4.1 in my work, with outrageous bugs. Don't get me started on Luna.

        From my today's session with Sol:

        - it actually failed to correctly understand a simple English grammar and logical implication of it, then when challenged it admitted its mistake but couldn't explain why it made it.

        - for the code I am working on, I asked to create two PRs for the two small features (couple lines of code). It created one in upstream, as intended, and other one in my own fork. Just like that, out of nowhere, and called the job done.

        - it said it would ask me to approve/amend the suggested PR message, it never did and fired off right away

        - it keeps forgetting the changes it did itself; no context compaction was used

        - it said it tested the change visually, but it did not even try

        - hallucinated several facts despite me asking beforehand to check online.

        On top of that, it ignores all of my AGENTS.md, which is short and concise. I mean I point it at ignoring it, it acknowledges and ignores again.

        This is astonishingly bad and it is nowhere close to what Sol 5.6 was a month ago.

        I can't deal with this sh*t anymore, I have no trust in the tools I use and both OpenAI and Anthropic do the same thing.

        1. gruez · · focus · HN ↗
          >Not even GPT6 Sol cannot match DeepSeek 4.1 in my work, with outrageous bugs.

          That seems hard to believe even with deepseek's own benchmarks. Not to mention for every person who says chinese ai is ahead of american labs, there's like 10 saying that they're benchmaxxed or that they're merely "decent value for money".

          1. solenoid0937 · · focus · HN ↗
            HN desperately wants Chinese AI to be competitive so there's a lot of self delusion and wishful thinking going on.

            I use Deepseek 4.1 almost every day as well, it's nowhere close

            1. stymaar · · focus · HN ↗
              There's an interesting contradiction in your comment: either the Chinese models aren't competitive, or you wouldn't be using it!
              1. mannycalavera42 · · focus · HN ↗
                maybe it's the combination of both? the _could_ have a judgment backed by firsthand experience for example...woah, I know!

                It's not like rooting for a favorite football team. double woah!

                1. stymaar · · focus · HN ↗
                  Why would they use it if it's not competitive in some way though?
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